Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

[WhiteArchmage]

The game only assumes you haven't done the events YET, although there are a few dialogue changes depending on your story progression (notably, Estinien's 3 ways when you meet again in 2.55; and Thubyrgeim having I think also 3 different options: either you completed the quest Tataru is currently doing, you didn't unlock ACN, or you unlocked ACN and took the quest but haven't completed the task Tataru is doing). Outright pretending events happened without the WoL is... unprecedented.

My best guess is that, if Dalmasca will feature in Part III; we get a differing line in case the PC didn't do Bozja. Say, Fran acknowledging meeting us in Bozja and saying it was time we helped in Dalmasca if you DID complete it, or... just saying something vague like "I've been hoping you'd meet us in Dalmasca after so long." in case you didn't.

While I wouldn't mind Part III being locked behind completion of Bozja, it'd need some heavy nerfs and reworks to future-proof it, since a player could in theory get through all of Return to Ivalice in less than one day, going from rank 1 to 25 and getting all the people necessary for CLL, DR, and Dal would be... taxing...

[Iscah]

The game only assumes you haven't done the events YET, although there are a few dialogue changes depending on your story progression (notably, Estinien's 3 ways when you meet again in 2.55; and Thubyrgeim having I think also 3 different options: either you completed the quest Tataru is currently doing, you didn't unlock ACN, or you unlocked ACN and took the quest but haven't completed the task Tataru is doing). Outright pretending events happened without the WoL is... unprecedented.

It's a slippery thing because although it treats your progress as "not yet", doing that progress later doesn't make it happen later. The Binding Coil is a good example because everything that happened there must happen prior to Alisaie rejoining the MSQ team at level 60. If you're half-done at the time she'll make a reference to that half-finished state of affairs, but if you go back to do the rest later then it's "altering the past" rather than "finishing it now", and if you rewatch the level 60 cutscene then her remarks will have changed.

She won't ever claim she got it sorted out on her own, though, and I think that's an important distinction.

It switches from getting partway through it with you to all the way through it with you, not from doing it without you to doing it with you. The player's progress is central to it.

If the MSQ is going to reference Bozja I would expect a passing line about it being a war front or a liberated state according to what you've done, and possibly we might see characters whose personality is much the same from start to finish (so it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done yet), but I can't see them bringing in any characters or locations whose situation has changed as a result of the battle.

If the story is going to continue, I would expect a further side story, possibly with some boosts to Bozja levelling so it's not hard to get through it.

[EdwinLi]

The game only assumes you haven't done the events YET, although there are a few dialogue changes depending on your story progression (notably, Estinien's 3 ways when you meet again in 2.55; and Thubyrgeim having I think also 3 different options: either you completed the quest Tataru is currently doing, you didn't unlock ACN, or you unlocked ACN and took the quest but haven't completed the task Tataru is doing). Outright pretending events happened without the WoL is... unprecedented.

My best guess is that, if Dalmasca will feature in Part III; we get a differing line in case the PC didn't do Bozja. Say, Fran acknowledging meeting us in Bozja and saying it was time we helped in Dalmasca if you DID complete it, or... just saying something vague like "I've been hoping you'd meet us in Dalmasca after so long." in case you didn't.

While I wouldn't mind Part III being locked behind completion of Bozja, it'd need some heavy nerfs and reworks to future-proof it, since a player could in theory get through all of Return to Ivalice in less than one day, going from rank 1 to 25 and getting all the people necessary for CLL, DR, and Dal would be... taxing...

That is some what of a issue for Part 3 of FFT/FFXII story if they plan to allow players into it without doing Part 1 and PArt 2.

Bozja has to be liberated if they plan to progress the story into Dalmasca, rebuild Dalmasca, or continue where the Notes about Gabranth left off so the the concept of these events actually happens and certain characters end up in their planned fate within Part 3. Thus Bozja has to be liberated one way or the other.


As the result, Menenius still has to die and Lyon still needs to play his role with people thinking he killed Gabranth.

If they don't allow events of Part 1 and Part 2 playout by themselves without WoL then SE will have no choice to force players to do Part 1 and Part 2 which certain players will hate due to how Part 2 is designed to progress.