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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    Why do people act as if explaining a mechanic that was failed is gonna get them banned? I myself had to explain mechanics when I show some people have issues with it without targeting or attacking anyone, saying things like ‘try to avoid stacking lightning because it hurts a lot” or “try have markers placed in X so there’s a safe place on the ground Y’, those don’t target or insult anyone but simply inform them of what went wrong because it is possible for them to not be aware. This normalization of targeting a player directly is thankfully not allowed here and for good reason, not only to reduce toxicity but to also improve the community because if someone does a mistake they respond far better to reading what went wrong to someone who directly names and shames them which leads to even worse drama but tryhards don’t really care about other people to think about that.

    Yes there are people who don’t know/remember all the mechanics, and because they know pugs can have elitist jerks who behave as if everyone should have done/know the fight when it was released they are forced to lie to get in since they want to do the fight and never ask for advice because they know they might get kicked so it is easier for them to stay silent when a screw up happens and try find what went wrong themselves rather than ask someone more experienced who knows exactly what went wrong.

    The system SE has is a good one because it forces people to behave and have manners, unlike almost all other mmos who let toxic people run rampart because hiring Gms to enforce the ToS is too counterintuitive to their profits.
    Sometimes it doesn't matter whether the advices are positively worded or not. You can try to be as positive & encouraging with your wording as possible---heck, add emoji as an 'insurance' that your intention are good & pure if you're that kind of player---and there will still be obnoxious players who somehow can twist the words against themselves and be offended when they're called out/given advice. Once they're 'offended', additionally there's also some probability of 'white knighting'-phenomena coming from fellow party mate if you're unlucky; these odds suddenly made whoever tries to be helpful be the 'bad one'. These are the ones we're trying to avoid dealing with. There's no 'win-win' solution to this.

    Don't get me wrong though. I'm all for giving advices as positively as possible (i.e. leave the salt out). The thing is these players probably also had a fair share of their bad times while giving advices and inclined to protect themselves before trying to save something else. Personally I'd rather bail out or see if the other prompt a vote kick/disband after seeing such mess.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 03-16-2021 at 11:48 AM.