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    Lil Imp
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    ((This applies mostly to high-end content; These days most 'elite' players I know are just kind of amused by really bad people in dungeons and find the stories fun to share))

    People who try to make you out to be a bad person for respecting your own time are simply in on the grift.

    When someone's performance is so poor that they put massive unfair strain on other players, or waste large amounts of other peoples time, it absolutely should be acceptable to speak with them openly about it, and to remove them from the party if necessary.

    I probably wasted upwards of 30 hours of my life pugging an E12S clear on Crystal, due to the sheer amount of people willing to lie about their progression, or join on alternate classes they didn't actually know how to play. We even had more than one occasion of someone who had never cleared the first phase of the fight using our clear P2 party to get carried through a P1 clear, only to pretend they had internet problems and DC immediately. I don't think I was in a single P2 party that didn't have to explain basic relativity to someone.

    I typically find it's more common for bad players to have exaggerated issues with their ego and self-worth in-game. They often spend a lot of time looking for excuses or ways to put down and undermine players that are just tangibly better than they are; It's really common to see 'casual' players inventing entirely new, totally arbitrary standards to rate others by which allow them to elevate their own play in some way. These kinds of weird ego issues are exactly what leads to the high propensity for trapping parties in this game.

    Bad players spend months convincing themselves that they're better than other people and deserve things from other people for no particular reason; In my time in E12S I sat in many many calls where people gave long-winded rants and speeches about how they "Just haven't had a party that can do it yet" and they "never make mistakes" and feel they should join a party three mechanics ahead of what they actually know. Of course, these people often turn out to be the least consistent members of any given party. They've just warped reality to suit the needs of their ego, and will absolutely go join a party they don't belong in, only to ruin the experience and waste the time of 7 other people.

    The point is, in this game it's often made to feel dangerous or wrong to try to hold these types of people accountable, despite that what they're doing is plainly amoral and harmful to others. Other people, who are likely guilty of the same behaviors, will readily jump in to defend these types of people because they're really just selfishly interested in defending themselves by proxy.
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    Last edited by LittleImp; 03-16-2021 at 08:55 AM.