Why is the Maturity Lvl of People Playing this game so much higher than that of WoW?

[Starshower]

I've been playing this game for 3 years, and only twice I remember being the victim of toxic players. Those 2 times playes banded together to mock my playstyle and insult me, and tell me to uninstall the game. One time was in thornmarch hard, I was the offtank with no tank stance, the main tank died and I didn't notice and didn't pick aggro, so the moogles killed everyone and we wiped. I was having a really bad day, everyone put the blame on me and mocked me. I felt really sad, put the loudest ones on blacklist and that was that. Another time, I was a white mage farming antitower for the relic. I only did holy and assize, doing maximum damage and no one died ever. I had everything in control. But the tank thought me letting him on 20% health without heals (because I was in control and knew he wouldn't die) was a crime and banded together with the friend he queued with and said how I was a terrible healer, and should uninstall the game, among other ridicule. I just blacklisted and went on with my day.


Those were the only 2 times in 3 years I was a victim of toxicity. On FCs there were annoying people and petty fc drama but this exists in any game. In general I find this community to be very friendly and helpful, I don't understand how some pepole claim it's worse than wow... I've seen people claim ffxiv has the most toxic community of any online game. This is insane, it's like people are desperate to put flaws on this game. And no, talking behind people's back and being passive aggressive is not the same as people attacking / kicking newbies from dungeons, being overtly toxic and saying racist and homophobic slurs. One is actually worse than the other, even if both are bad.

[Ralph2449]

In general I find this community to be very friendly and helpful, I don't understand how some pepole claim it's worse than wow... I've seen people claim ffxiv has the most toxic community of any online game. This is insane, it's like people are desperate to put flaws on this game.

Yeah it is hard to imagine anyone saying that with a serious face, the only reason I can imagine anyone saying that is if they have not actually played WoW or played WoW but have not pugged anything, WoW has one of the most toxic communities next to LoL and because the game is designed for the high end at the expense of more casual content if you want gear progression, you either suffer and accept the toxicity or leave, which is what many people are doing leaving the toxic tryhards to make the community even worse and even more unfriendly to new and casual players which makes you wonder how long can WoW last on tryhards and whales buying tokens for boosts (since that is what brings them a ton of profit based on their last quarterly report).

Honestly coming from WoW i am loving this community cuz it is friendly, helpful, nice and keeps pushing forward, I like doing extreme trials while on that expansion's content and I ve been using duty finder for it(JP dc), there have been some extreme trials like the later heavenswards ones which we had a number of wipes but we were improving each time so everyone kept pushing and we killed the boss just fine after people got used to the mechanics, there is was no drama, no insults, people just explained how X thing worked and because we were clearly getting closer there was no reason to vote to abandon which you would do if it was clear the group wouldnt beat it.

Plus it makes beating it after a few wipes even more fun, but then you have the tryhards who act if people arent at max performance at all time the world will collapse or if a single wipe in content that barely requires 50% performance is the worst thing that has happened to their life, I ve died in Thronmarch extreme once because the tank wasnt tanking the tankable ads and I didnt feel angry or bad, it was clearly a basic mistake that is easy to fix, it happens lul, we are gonna reset and kill it, BIG DEAL!

Thankfully SE has a good ToS so the type of toxicity you suffered is severely punishable.

[Starshower]

Thankfully SE has a good ToS so the type of toxicity you suffered is severely punishable.

Honestly I don't know what's wrong with me, I think my heart must be too good, because I didn't even report those people. It would've sucked for them if they lost their account. I don't want it to happen to me so I wouldn't push that on anyone.

[KeshLives]

Honestly I don't know what's wrong with me, I think my heart must be too good, because I didn't even report those people. It would've sucked for them if they lost their account. I don't want it to happen to me so I wouldn't push that on anyone.

Oh, I think you're fine. You're talking about three incidents, not the same people any of the times. I would have let it go myself.

Just the threat keeps people with ideas like that from doing much, if they think about it, here in FFXIV. Not worth it. Unfortunately, other games, no real mechanism to slow them exists.