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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rai_Takara View Post
    If it saves a healer a GCD, then it's a gain. In high end optimizations, curing optimization is planned to the point that not using it will wipe the party. While DNC isn't a healer, it still has healing and mitigation tools like one and should use it. But like I said, if the group isn't optimizing, then it doesn't matter and the depth vanishes.
    If this nuance is only found in the hardest of content and not basic performance, its token which again I dont think its DNC fault but "In high end blah blah blah" thiers 4 maybe 5 instances where that applies everything else its a non issue or a non nuance. Even said that this is one skill one 60 second skill. I remain unconvinced of DNC depth and if "high end optimizing" is a must to see it shine
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    Rai_Takara's Avatar
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    Rai Nagisei
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    If this nuance is only found in the hardest of content and not basic performance, its token which again I dont think its DNC fault but "In high end blah blah blah" thiers 4 maybe 5 instances where that applies everything else its a non issue or a non nuance. Even said that this is one skill one 60 second skill. I remain unconvinced of DNC depth and if "high end optimizing" is a must to see it shine
    Basic performance of every job lacks nuance. If you don't optimize your job, then every job in the game is brain dead easy. Of the Physical Ranged, DNC is the easiest to pickup, assuming you are comfortable with RNG, but that varies per person. In terms of optimization, with DNC and BRD there's more to optimize than say MCH and with DNC a little moreso than BRD. Until you get to that level of play, none of the physical ranged are going to have much depth.

    It's fine if you remain unconvinced, but if you don't push your job to the limit or put it in hard content, then you won't get the most out of it and DNC is one of those jobs that shines at the top end and not so much at the casual/midcore end.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    I don't really see the need for a single target Saber Dance. In the interest of saving on button bloat I'd rather see Saber Dance have a higher potency if no other targets are hit by it.
    To be fair, Dancer doesn't have that many buttons compared to other jobs. So we can afford to have another Esprit spender button, if not Saber. Personally, I do agree with you that, I think Saber is fine as is, not because of potential button bloat but because it lends itself to choice between Saber and Procs.
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    Last edited by Rai_Takara; 10-25-2020 at 11:25 AM.