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  1. #21
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I recognize that a handful of inefficient players want to stay and whack at a fate they already contributed to enough for a gold rating, and instead of accepting the consequences of their choices they are mad that other players don't alleviate them.
    You mean that bunch of smart players stay, because they understand that unless someone stays and actually finishes the FATE, nobody will get any rewards at all from it - no matter how much or little they contributed.
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  2. #22
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    You guys need to get over the fact that you don't own other players and can't force them to play in a way that personally benefits you. Gold means you contributed an appropriate amount to the fate. If they can get gold and leave early, that's their business. It just leaves more progress for other people to make sure they get gold with.
    I don't have to do anything, I already say that no one is going to tell anyone what to do and is SE problem. Anyway, because one of the things I dislike the most is doing fates when the big train is around them I did SB shared fates by myself, the same as with Yokai event. More than once a player came to a fate I was doing alone, did the minimal contribution for gold and went away.

    So my point still stands, if everyone follows that logic no fate will be ever finished. In special with the scaling when a big train is around.
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  3. #23
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Gold contribution says otherwise

    FATEs have been a staple since ARR. If they haven't fixed such "flaw" by now, probably it's not a flaw but a feature.
    Yeah, because it's real difficult to get a gold contribution. I've got golds showing up to FATES with less then 40 seconds left. But it would actually be more accurate to say I've arrived when the FATE was >80% completed and still got gold. If gold contribution was actually difficult, this would not be a thing at all.

    Neglect to fix a flaw doesn't mean there isn't one. Good lord if only that were true.
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  4. 10-19-2020 12:57 AM
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  5. #24
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    Demetre Vi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I would say remove credit if the player engages another FATE before the first one is finished. Sure, they can still leave early but they can't get a jump start on the next FATE until the prior one is finished and the FATE train might decide to go to a different FATE. They might as well stay to help the first one finish faster.
    I love this idea
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  6. #25
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    I don't have to do anything, I already say that no one is going to tell anyone what to do and is SE problem. Anyway, because one of the things I dislike the most is doing fates when the big train is around them I did SB shared fates by myself, the same as with Yokai event. More than once a player came to a fate I was doing alone, did the minimal contribution for gold and went away.

    So my point still stands, if everyone follows that logic no fate will be ever finished. In special with the scaling when a big train is around.
    Sure, you don't have to do it. You could choose to continue wasting your life making yourself miserable over trivial nonsense in a video game that could not possibly matter less.

    It's your call.
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  7. #26
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    Demetre Vi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I recognize that a handful of inefficient players want to stay and whack at a fate they already contributed to enough for a gold rating, and instead of accepting the consequences of their choices they are mad that other players don't alleviate them. No one is "leaving them behind", they choose that. If I could I would Rescue them to the next fate myself.
    Then fates would never be completed with that mindset, especially if everyone followed right behind you to the next one and left and the next one and so on.
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  8. #27
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Sure, you don't have to do it. You could choose to continue wasting your life making yourself miserable over trivial nonsense in a video game that could not possibly matter less.

    It's your call.
    So since you no longer have any argument against what I'm saying your only tactic is portraying me as being miserable because? Just because I have an opinion about doing this does not mean I lose any sleep over it.

    "But Driavna you don't do fates trains because of this!" No, I don't do fate trains because I find it stressful, so I rather do it at my own pace since farming fates alone is something I find relaxing.

    Edit: I will also add one thing, you are not only playing a videogame, but you are also interacting with other people.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 10-19-2020 at 01:18 AM.

  9. #28
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    You mean that bunch of smart players stay, because they understand that unless someone stays and actually finishes the FATE, nobody will get any rewards at all from it - no matter how much or little they contributed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    So my point still stands, if everyone follows that logic no fate will be ever finished. In special with the scaling when a big train is around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aizuh View Post
    Then fates would never be completed with that mindset, especially if everyone followed right behind you to the next one and left and the next one and so on.
    Did you people not read the thread or is the concept of going back to the fate when necessary too complicated to grasp? Let me quote from the first page:

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If everyone circles back to an undermanned fate to complete it, the fate is not going to be completed? That's some odd logic.
    I'll reflect your own argument back at you. If everyone does the minimum required for gold but goes back to finish fates that aren't getting finished, then fates will be completed and there will be more players who get gold rating.
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  10. #29
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I would say remove credit if the player engages another FATE before the first one is finished. Sure, they can still leave early but they can't get a jump start on the next FATE until the prior one is finished and the FATE train might decide to go to a different FATE. They might as well stay to help the first one finish faster.
    The problem with this is that there are those "collect this thing and turn in" FATEs that have absolutely NO reason to stay if you have turned in everything. The last minute is there so people can turn in their things to get gold.
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  11. #30
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    Endeleon's Avatar
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    Amethyst Loire
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I leave early on Fates all the time because folks tend to spread out and do multiple FATEs at a time so I try to hit as many as I can so I can get rewards faster.
    I'm sorry if it bugs you. It bugs me that folks split up (intentionally or not), forcing me to break off from the pack so I can not miss out on the benefits...
    Your post but written honestly: I leave early on fates all the time because I want other to do all the work for me and refuse to not get every single reward. It's absolutely impossible for me to organize the fate train so I'm going to continue to be a selfish player who takes advantage of others, so that I can not miss out on the rewards others earn for me.
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