Revelations from Patch 5.3

[Rosenstrauch]

Nice theory, but I doubt it would be Altima - because Altima is already in the game's lore as an Ascian

I am fully aware of that. It's the basis of my speculation, in fact.

[MrThinker]

I am fully aware of that. It's the basis of my speculation, in fact.

I believe Enkidoh is saying that since there is already an Altima it wouldn't make sense for Gaia to be woken up as a new Altima... unless Altima was one of the overlords Gaius offed.

I also have a further crackpot (as in super highly unlikely) theory:

Gaia is indeed a shard of Altima, however Altima the Ascian is playing puppeteer with their sundered fragment. Altima is going to be revealed to have been searching for their soul shards and forcibly merging with them to try and make herself unsundered w/o having gone through Rejoinings.

Regardless, if Eden turns out to be completely unrelated to the Ascians, I am going to be unimpressed.

EDIT:

Could you link that interview, because that makes very little sense. If that were the case, then why wouldn't Elidibus help him out of Nidhogg's right eye, and then help restore him to a proper body?

I actually think that was a headcanon/hypothesis put forward by people that had little evidence backing it up.

[Rosenstrauch]

I believe Enkidoh is saying that since there is already an Altima it wouldn't make sense for Gaia to be woken up as a new Altima... unless Altima was one of the overlords Gaius offed.

I also have a further crackpot (as in super highly unlikely) theory:

Gaia is indeed a shard of Altima, however Altima the Ascian is playing puppeteer with their sundered fragment. Altima is going to be revealed to have been searching for their soul shards and forcibly merging with them to try and make herself unsundered w/o having gone through Rejoinings.

Regardless, if Eden turns out to be completely unrelated to the Ascians, I am going to be unimpressed.

That makes more sense than "Altima the Ascian can't be in the Eden plot because the name Altima is already being used by Altima the Ascian", but I still don't see it as a deal breaker. As far as I'm concerned, Altima doesn't need to be dead to try and do... whatever it is the Idol of Darkness did to Gaia that awakened her to memories that weren't her own. And I don't necessarily see it as an attempt to raise up a new Altima, either. Rather, I see it as an attempt to force Gaia back into being the Voidwalker—her puppet, in other words.

In fact, I think the timeline of Altima's intervention would be as follows:

Eden 2:

Gaia, under significant brainwashing from Altima, is sent to stop Ryne and co. from using Eden. If she had succeeded, the First would still be mostly primed for Rejoining.

Eden 7:

Gaia's emotional vulnerability is taken advantage of by Altima, who is trying to puppeteer her in order to, once again, stop Ryne and co. from using Eden. At this point Elidibus is still alive and the Elements haven't all been restored to the Empty, so she still has time to act.

Eden 9-12:

Elidibus is dead, and any hope for reclaiming her world and people is gone. At this point she will finally stop acting from afar and will confront the party, seizing Gaia in a weakened state post-Griever fight. At this point she's acting out of despair and anger, and wants to use Eden to turn the First, and potentially other Reflections and maybe even the Source, into Voids. Light or Dark, it doesn't matter so long as she can deny us our worlds.

That's what I thought Rosenstrauch was basically going for, and I like that theory. The "fairy" from E7 basically being an advanced Crystal of Darkness or something.

That is pretty much what I was going for, yeah.

[Saix027]

I believe Enkidoh is saying that since there is already an Altima it wouldn't make sense for Gaia to be woken up as a new Altima... unless Altima was one of the overlords Gaius offed.

I also have a further crackpot (as in super highly unlikely) theory:

Gaia is indeed a shard of Altima, however Altima the Ascian is playing puppeteer with their sundered fragment. Altima is going to be revealed to have been searching for their soul shards and forcibly merging with them to try and make herself unsundered w/o having gone through Rejoinings.

Regardless, if Eden turns out to be completely unrelated to the Ascians, I am going to be unimpressed.

EDIT:


I actually think that was a headcanon/hypothesis put forward by people that had little evidence backing it up.

Actually it could i mean, what is stopping anyone from using a name twice, the names still could be old tales or so and exist, i mean we literally have actually two bosses of the same name, Haukke Manor Hard mode endboss and the Omega Delta 3 boss, both are named Halicarnassus.