Revelations from Patch 5.3

[Erendis]

G'raha and his soul

I really wonder how dense his soul is now...when we rejoined with Ardbert our soul got more dense. We are now 9 parts of the old soul..but G'raha should be over a complete Anicent soul right now. His old self already had 8 parts and now he rejoined with his 9 parts, which means that he should be complete right now. It would be a bit different if he only gave his memories but we do know that he also gave his soul. So seeing how it was all the time before that, he should now be really powerful and kinda like an Ancient right? (It could of course be that SE never thought about that and just handwave it away somehow..)

Was I the only one who got an impression that G'raha's soul was not transfered, only his memories? I thought it was sad to loose another person who was 9/14, since Source G'raha is only 8/14.

Tenfold nothing

[Alleluia]

Was I the only one who got an impression that G'raha's soul was not transfered, only his memories? I thought it was sad to loose another person who was 9/14, since Source G'raha is only 8/14.

Tenfold nothing

More G'raha stuff:

if you talk to him in Rising Stones and ask how he's faring, he talks about his soul density and how its denser than he was expecting, and he postulates that its b/c he'd undergone an additional rejoining in the 8th umbral timeline. So he's definitely saying his soul came over.

I thought it was weird that his soul infuses the vessel and yet he is still clearly conscious in his crystallizing body, cus after it glows he looks at us and smiles and nods. How do you do that if your soul is no longer in your body?

So I was very confused about why Ryne was actually smiling in the end of that scene, especially when the WoL looks sad. I thought he'd died and we had a SOMA situation. Which, to be fair, we still might, I suppose? Either that, or the last traces of his soul went into the vessel after he crystallized? I don't know.

[Alleo]

More G'raha stuff:

if you talk to him in Rising Stones and ask how he's faring, he talks about his soul density and how its denser than he was expecting, and he postulates that its b/c he'd undergone an additional rejoining in the 8th umbral timeline. So he's definitely saying his soul came over.

I thought it was weird that his soul infuses the vessel and yet he is still clearly conscious in his crystallizing body, cus after it glows he looks at us and smiles and nods. How do you do that if your soul is no longer in your body?

So I was very confused about why Ryne was actually smiling in the end of that scene, especially when the WoL looks sad. I thought he'd died and we had a SOMA situation. Which, to be fair, we still might, I suppose? Either that, or the last traces of his soul went into the vessel after he crystallized? I don't know.

About the vessel part

I wondered about it too. And not only that..but he has transported his memories in there quite some time until he fully went into it..so how was he still remembering stuff? The same with the scions. Shouldnt giving something your memories not kinda take them away from you? Or is this just like coping them?

It's here.

Whether it makes sense or not (and we can see just how easily they can try force things to make sense, whether the end result is satisfactory, or not), the wording confirms what that poster said. Much the same with Emet-Selch, with the "it is believed". Perhaps there is something to the headcanon that souls really are indestructible, white auracite or not, and all that happens is that the soul is forced back into the Lifestream for rebirth; Lahabrea's was trapped in the eyes at the time. To me the way this reads is that they're being non-committal.

So Elidibus "emotional" reaction towards the death of the other two unsundered barely means anything if seemingly Lahabrea survived that long..Did none of the unsundered at least thought to check out the eye?

[Iscah]

About the vessel:

I wondered about it too. And not only that..but he has transported his memories in there quite some time until he fully went into it..so how was he still remembering stuff? The same with the scions. Shouldnt giving something your memories not kinda take them away from you? Or is this just like coping them?

It certainly seems that they're creating a copy of the memories rather than a direct transfer. For definite proof, there's the Exarch's farewell to Lyna where he talks about his memories of her, so he's clearly still in possession of them even after he's placed them in the crystal.

Edit to add: I suppose it's a bit like job stones, however they work exactly. The user acquires knowledge from the stone without removing it from the permanent record, and imprints their own knowledge on it presumably without losing it themself.