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  1. #141
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    Hausti's Avatar
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    Io Hausti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    Maybe I'ma sound like a boomer but back in the day, we played games like Metal Gear Solid with mechanics the very same as what we're going through now(button mashing until YES, OUR FINGERS HURT).
    I love when people compare the button smashing to Metal Gear Solid but forget about the fact that there was the option to just "give up" and NOT do it.
    After that you could still progress in the story and just get a slightly different ending. Thats it.

    Here it just means: Wipe. The End.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Because it's story mode and it's blocking the progress of everyone in the group (who were randomly matched more likely than not) from progressing in the story. Because it's telling people with physical disabilities that they're no longer welcome to experience the story.

    I've got no problem if SE wants to include one person fails and the group wipes in EX/Savage/Ultimate. It does not belong in story mode.
    This exactly.
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    Last edited by Hausti; 08-17-2020 at 02:01 AM.

  2. #142
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    How hard is it to mash buttons? I have small hands and clear it all the time. This has to be a joke.
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  3. #143
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    Hatfright's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    How hard is it to mash buttons? I have small hands and clear it all the time. This has to be a joke.
    Well, if peoples pain is a joke for you...
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  4. #144
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    I agree, this isn't a Quick Time Event. It's just plain button mashing for the sake of button mashing. True QTE have press a certain button or action at the right time in a cinematic event

    Real examples of QTE:
    FFIX
    FFVII Remake
    Marvel's Spider-Man
    God of War Bedroom Scene
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 08-17-2020 at 03:58 AM.

  5. #145
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    Father Gascoigne
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    If it's a problem for players who are disabled, arthritic, etc. then change it or remove it.

    How ridiculously easy is this game where the community is arguing that a BUTTON MASHING segment needs to stay on as some kind of skill gate for the story? I mean seriously, why try to draw a 'git gud' line here? Is this really meaningful, significant gameplay for some of you? Is the game de-legitimized if players don't have to prove themselves in the button-mash arena to progress?
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  6. #146
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    Well, if peoples pain is a joke for you...

    I dunno what to tell you but I just slowly mash and get the QTE everytime. As long as you are not mashing the controller hard then it shouldn't be a problem.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I dunno what to tell you but I just slowly mash and get the QTE everytime. As long as you are not mashing the controller hard then it shouldn't be a problem.
    Slowly mashing something sounds a bit strange to my (non native) ears. Also you cant just do it slow. I watched Ethys stream and he went in slow (probably thought it was like the other ones) and died because of that. It was also the point where I saw that the whole party wipes for this one mistake. And seemingly you cant even tell who failed?

    Also please dont assume its the same for everyone. For some it could be a problem and they have the right to talk about it. The only change needed is either to not make it wipe the whole group or to truly slow it down. I am really not sure why they felt the need to change it up to the usual QTE..

    Wonder how many people would still be fine with it if they land in a couple of groups where one person is using this to troll..or maybe there is a time of bad lag.
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  8. #148
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    Sono Faolain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I dunno what to tell you but I just slowly mash and get the QTE everytime. As long as you are not mashing the controller hard then it shouldn't be a problem.
    I'm glad it works for you. It don't for others. You don't even need to read the whole tread to see it, just a few pages back. Time and time again people said "that don't work, my hands hurt", but everytime there's someone going "you just ain't doing it right", "you just not trying enough", "you're just lazy". How hard is it go grasp the concept that people are different and there's no ultimate answer?
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  9. #149
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    Lhunuial's Avatar
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    Ishild Hawke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    How hard is it to mash buttons? I have small hands and clear it all the time. This has to be a joke.
    How nice that people with disabilities are a joke to you. That our legitimate concerns are a joke to you.
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    Last edited by Lhunuial; 08-17-2020 at 04:44 AM.

  10. #150
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I dunno what to tell you but I just slowly mash and get the QTE everytime. As long as you are not mashing the controller hard then it shouldn't be a problem.
    Considering it takes a fair amount of button mashing...I don't buy that you do it "slow". It doesn't allow for slow button mashing. It might not be physically painful for me, but I can certainly see how it can be for others. I have heard, however, that spinning the left or right joystick might do the job so I may try that next time I get that for my trial roulette. That might be worlds easier for controller users.
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