No more QTE please.

[quotey]

The music change is the worst part to breaking the feel of the fight. The Hades one is a brutal interruption. Otherwise they're fine.

It seems like square should make it clear that you can mash multiple buttons though (there are lots of people in this thread who think you have to spam click the button, pretty difficult!), and probably not have you wipe if one person fails.

[Canada_bangs]

I actually like the idea that if one person fails it, we all wipe. Finally people are held accountable for playing the game putting fourth effort. Also it's really not at all hard to click and mash your keyboard at the same time. Why do people complain once something new is added that requires anything from them? We got a challenging trial and this fit with it, deal with it.

I agree fully that I love that everyone has to be awake for that. We need more of things like that, that's the best way to stop people from being lazy. I will say though that it may not be as simple as "just press everything" apparently going by this topic there's abit of people who just can't. I can't relate because I can mash with the best of, toughed the leather, unlike sonic I don't cuckle, I rather mash my buttons. Sorry but it was right there.

[SockOutlet]

I hate the QTE in the 5.3 trial. I've talked about it in different threads. I can't keep it up to keep smashing that button and because of it I keep failing and I can't finish the MSQ. This is really poor design and it doesn't take into account that some people with physical issues won't be able to do this QTE, especially not if they have to do it several times in a row because they keep failing. Latency issues and lag spikes also don't help. It is not fun at all and right now I'm even too anxious to try again.

Are you just pushing one button? Push a bunch at the same time!

[SockOutlet]

yeah my girlfriend has neuropathy and it's tough on her hands. I was worried if she would be able to do that part cause I had to mash pretty hard but she got it . If they wanna leave it in they should have an option that makes it easier for people with disabilities I think

[Avatre]

Can hit any button on a controller too, but even then the bar would dip below half after spamming.

I've never had it drop below 3/4 using controller...I just run my thumbs along the square, triangle, circle and x buttons, as well as the D-pad. Can also use the triggers to add to it.

[Lhunuial]

Are you just pushing one button? Push a bunch at the same time!

I've tried. My hands start hurting by the time it really matters to push the buttons and then I can't keep it up. If I'm having a good day I can do it, but if my symptoms act up then I'm not able to do it. One of my friends is also not able to do it once she's taken her meds, because they slow her reaction time.

[yotsuffy]

I've known every console at their times. I don't discover QTEs in 2020.
Every QTE I encountered asked me to click one specific button.
Some QTEs asked me to switch buttons, naming them.
Some QTEs warned me to not use autofire.

I have never Encountered a QTE letting me guess what button to hit.
I have never Encountered a QTE letting me guess I could hit more than one button.
I have never Encountered a QTE that would punish those playing with me because I can't hit fast enough.

Hitting any and many buttons for a QTE has never been obvious.

I'm glad I can chose to never do this trial again.
I'm disappointed I was forced to do it to follow the MSQ.

[Hatfright]

Finally people are held accountable for playing the game putting fourth effort.

Are you saying people, who, for example, physically can't smash buttons like crazy for 10 or so seconds not puttin effort in a fight?

We got a challenging trial and this fit with it, deal with it.

Funny how SE make every solo duty in MSQ an experience for everyone with added difficulty change, but the very last fight is suddenly "not for everyone". Like, if you want a challenge, go do extreme version. Normal difficulty trial shoudn't leave us with hands hurting after it.

[RajNish]

I've tried. My hands start hurting by the time it really matters to push the buttons and then I can't keep it up. If I'm having a good day I can do it, but if my symptoms act up then I'm not able to do it. One of my friends is also not able to do it once she's taken her meds, because they slow her reaction time.

I understand you very well and understand how this can ruin the mood, especially if you read comments from people who do not want to understand the problem.

I do not know you, but I am grateful for your courage and resilience, for the fact that you are not afraid to speak, although they do not want to hear your voice.

[Valic]

Fine if people need a method they can tick on to help them beat it but honestly... I feel like people think any form of difficulty/challenge = GO TO HARDCORE CONTENT. Maybe I'ma sound like a boomer but back in the day, we played games like Metal Gear Solid with mechanics the very same as what we're going through now(button mashing until YES, OUR FINGERS HURT). What did people do back when games couldn't be patched, changed, or you simply "couldn't do it"??.... We found an alternative method to progressing however we could. We held ourselves accountable for our own progression and the need/desire to see forward. We didn't complain every corner something made us have to keep trying, we just kept trying... Cuz it's a game, you're SUPPOSED to be challenged at least to SOME degree. The ending fight of ShB SHOULD be relatively difficult seeing as it closes up the expansion and ends on a powerful note.... I wouldn't have it any other way.

While I completely and utterly understand disabilities and things that hinder people, I don't think because of the common denominator should everyone else also have things easier for them. I'm not saying it doesn't suck to have a handicap or issues but I am saying if the game offered some means of that to EVERYONE, it simply defeats difficulty of any form of challenge for the common player. It'd be like having an automatic jump button in a mario game for people who can't use their right thumb and then everyone else going "oh, well I can just use that then and say screw it".