General Community Resistant to Healer Damage?

[Elladie]

I am an ABC healer. I always have been, even when CS was a thing and I was learning SCH and stance dancing made me nervous. If I'm not healing, I sneak in some DPS.

But this is what I don't get about everyone complaining about healers who stand around doing nothing. The only runs I have where I spend the majority of my time DPS-ing as a healer are runs I do with my Trusts. If I'm in a dungeon with people, the tank pulls loads, the DPS take damage, I count myself lucky if I manage to throw in any DoTs. I mean I Holy as much as I can, but that's only effective for mitigating damage the first few casts; after that everything gets a bit hair-raising. I really don't get all that much opportunity to use Art of War on SCH. Yeah on bosses I can DPS more, but I don't spend anything like 60% of my time with nothing to do (if I don't DPS). Even more so on AST.

So my question is, where are all these amazing dungeon runners that only need a minimum of healing and why are they never in my parties?

[SamRF]

I am an ABC healer. I always have been, even when CS was a thing and I was learning SCH and stance dancing made me nervous. If I'm not healing, I sneak in some DPS.

But this is what I don't get about everyone complaining about healers who stand around doing nothing. The only runs I have where I spend the majority of my time DPS-ing as a healer are runs I do with my Trusts. If I'm in a dungeon with people, the tank pulls loads, the DPS take damage, I count myself lucky if I manage to throw in any DoTs. I mean I Holy as much as I can, but that's only effective for mitigating damage the first few casts; after that everything gets a bit hair-raising. I really don't get all that much opportunity to use Art of War on SCH. Yeah on bosses I can DPS more, but I don't spend anything like 60% of my time with nothing to do (if I don't DPS). Even more so on AST.

So my question is, where are all these amazing dungeon runners that only need a minimum of healing and why are they never in my parties?

I get them all the time in DF groups (probably not the majority though). SCH especially probably has easiest time not casting a single GCD heal even for big pulls considering how many tools they have availible.

However, at least in Duty Finder, I'm fine with healers who at least don't waste their GCD with overhealing or doing nothing since it means they are putting in some effort and aren't watching TV on the side. I wouldn't mind having you in my party in DF by a long shot.

[GrimGale]

So my question is, where are all these amazing dungeon runners that only need a minimum of healing and why are they never in my parties?

You can go to FF Logs and get a huge sample of healer performances (more than 5k) both in endgame dungeons and savages. Even the average ones have 150+ casts of dps skills and around 50+ uses of healing skills (Which most are OGCDs).

[Awha]

I am an ABC healer. I always have been, even when CS was a thing and I was learning SCH and stance dancing made me nervous. If I'm not healing, I sneak in some DPS.

But this is what I don't get about everyone complaining about healers who stand around doing nothing. The only runs I have where I spend the majority of my time DPS-ing as a healer are runs I do with my Trusts. If I'm in a dungeon with people, the tank pulls loads, the DPS take damage, I count myself lucky if I manage to throw in any DoTs. I mean I Holy as much as I can, but that's only effective for mitigating damage the first few casts; after that everything gets a bit hair-raising. I really don't get all that much opportunity to use Art of War on SCH. Yeah on bosses I can DPS more, but I don't spend anything like 60% of my time with nothing to do (if I don't DPS). Even more so on AST.

So my question is, where are all these amazing dungeon runners that only need a minimum of healing and why are they never in my parties?

It comes down to pushing your own limits and making mistakes along the way. What I did when I started healing was I worked on letting people get as low as I possible could before using a heal. Many people died in the process but it is a learning curve sure I got a lot of shit for it at the start but I ignored them and kept going against my basic instinct to keep people topped off or even start healing when someone drops below 50%. I learned when I needed to heal and when I didn't based off the situation and even group. Now even with a horrible tank I can still spend a large percentage of my time doing damage. Unless I run into a horrible tank with horrible gear, doing large pulls and standing in everything. I personally am not good enough to heal through that while still being able to do damage but I have seen healers that can, and it is amazing to watch.