Tanking in FF14 question

[Leiron]

It wasnt really an issue, except in small patch cycles, and even then, the BLM goes back to a normal rotation, and u keep spamming ur AoEs and you quickly have hate again. 2.0 was the only cycle that was really bad with threat generation. (really just PLD) But it was still fine. I had my BLM friend go ham, while my MNK friend went ham. I mostly spammed flash, and used stun on the mob my MNK friend was targeting, since he would eventually rip hate using single target, while im spamming flash. (the stun kept him safe till the mob died) If it were any other DPS, actually using AoE, then flash spam was enough. (This was before the nerf to flare)
only a few whiny tanks complained about BLM openers, because they lost hate for 4 seconds, and then got it back again. (Which only PLD really sucked at. WAR, and DRK did just fine. I honestly cant think of a single time I lost hate to a BLM opener as WAR or DRK. They just did too much burst dmg.)

For War? UHhh, it depended on whether or not you had steel cyclone ready since overpower alone was not the best for aoe generation.
If all you had was overpower and flash, BLM can rip agro off really fast on the opener.
If you had Steel cyclone up and bursted? Pfft. nothing was stealing agro from you outside of a Provoke from a paladin.

The game is much easier for tanks now than it was back then. As I've been leveling I've been finding there really is no need for me to work on any other tank class besides Warrior. Which is fine, but the strengths and weaknesses of each tank job has been largely made the same. At this point its a matter of aesthetics.
So for now, I main my warrior for leveling, and I'll work on my dragoon after.

Anything else besides Disciple of the hand is just for kicks.

[Claire_Pendragon]

For War? UHhh, it depended on whether or not you had steel cyclone ready since overpower alone was not the best for aoe generation.
If all you had was overpower and flash, BLM can rip agro off really fast on the opener.
If you had Steel cyclone up and bursted? Pfft. nothing was stealing agro from you outside of a Provoke from a paladin.

(1) Why wouldnt u have a steel cyclone ready? I always made sure to have one ready for the next pull. (obviously not holding it if its still only the middle of the fight, but when the fights almost over, save it up for the next pull, no point wasting it on only 2 mobs.)
(2) Berserk did insane dmg, with massive threat. (and during pacify time frame, u had flash as filler till pacify wore off) (They also had another DPS buff, i think internal release, or raging strikes, i forget what it was called)
(3) Vengance also added to your threat, along with all the self healing. (Thrill of battle, Second Wind, Blood Bath, and later Equilibrium replacing second wind)
(4) WAR had the ability to nullify the dmg penalty, leading to even more threat.
Depending on patch/expansion, berserk wasnt always up, so you alternated between it for 1 pull, and unchained for the other. (Unless doing super pulls, then they were usually both up)

WAR always had an answer for threat. PLD did not. FoF + circle of scorn was the best they had. and then flash spam, or tabbed RoH.

Negative. Raid wide between all tanks is basically the same except PLD gets one extra.

All tanks are simmilar and practically the same. but even among small differences, one of those small differences is the "bigger" difference. Thats all I was getting at by saying that was the biggest difference. I still seem them as being practically the same. But I will agree I forgot to reply about ultimates like LD.

Also who in their right mind actually believes DRK is easier than WAR? Have you PLAYED WAR???!?!?! Just keep your darn damage buff and save upheavel if IR is coming up. Finally don't infuriate during IR. Congrats! That's the depth of skill required for WAR rotation.

DRK is the same playstyle.
BS/Fell at 50 gauge, IF you dont have your oGCD 50 gauge spender. Eye/edge for your DPS buff.
otherwise 123.
The core difference is that WARs 2nd gauge isnt a bar showing when the best time to use eye, where as DRK has an easier to read gauge, AND can just oGCD its buff, AND can double up on it. WARs overwrites its own buff, leading to a mess up in the rotation. This is the core reason WAR is "technically" harder. (Otherwise id say they are roughly the same)
Lastly is the other oGCDs that DRK gets to press. These dont functionally have any effort in them, other than, when they shine, press them. WARs only other oGCDs require pressing at correct windows, and not any other time. (but this doesnt mean WAR or DRK are harder in their oGCDs)
Both have AoEs they need to "aim"
The core difference in difficulty between the two tanks, is the minimum play, vs max play. at minimum, DRK never needs TBN, and doesnt have to watch MP. But at maximum play, DRK does need to watch MP.
So DRK is the easier of the two to play for a bad player, since it flows smoother, and doesnt punish as much, but its the harder of the two to play for a good player, since theres more room for min/maxing DRK. (But over all, both are pretty darn close)

[Leiron]

(1) Why wouldnt u have a steel cyclone ready? I always made sure to have one ready for the next pull. (obviously not holding it if its still only the middle of the fight, but when the fights almost over, save it up for the next pull, no point wasting it on only 2 mobs.)
(2) Berserk did insane dmg, with massive threat. (and during pacify time frame, u had flash as filler till pacify wore off) (They also had another DPS buff, i think internal release, or raging strikes, i forget what it was called)
(3) Vengance also added to your threat, along with all the self healing. (Thrill of battle, Second Wind, Blood Bath, and later Equilibrium replacing second wind)
(4) WAR had the ability to nullify the dmg penalty, leading to even more threat.
Depending on patch/expansion, berserk wasnt always up, so you alternated between it for 1 pull, and unchained for the other. (Unless doing super pulls, then they were usually both up)

WAR always had an answer for threat. PLD did not. FoF + circle of scorn was the best they had. and then flash spam, or tabbed RoH.

Hmm, can't recall. Its been a long time since 1.0 and 2.0 so I cannot recall the times where I would have Steel Cyclone down. Now mind you, not disagreeing that WAR always had an answer to threat, only that there were a few circumstances where threat could be pulled off the WAR at the start of a pull and only by a class literally dropping the highest burst combo in the game with Double flare into fire 3 before it could be yanked back.
I cannot recall anytime you'd go in and pop al your cooldowns for the sake of stealing threat on a pull, but my memory of 2.0 is from aloooong time ago and I was busy with school.