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    Tanking in FF14 question

    so i made i made the switch from Wow classic to FF14 and i have a question. im only lvl 26 and i have been doing dungeons with a party. The only skill i really use in dungeon is Iron will + total eclipse and 95% of the time that will grab aggro no problem. Is it me or is that what you really do in tank roles, spam total eclipse?
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    From this expansion so far, yes.
    IF they change it, it wont be till next expansion (theres no way they would. they think the only way to improve tanking/healing is over simplification. rather than just making an easy to play tank, and hard to play tank (and others being any range between)

    EDIT: currently at your level. (Later levels varies, but is semi close, as your complexity is mostly in single target, but PLD i believe has the most "in depth" AoE option at max level.)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 05-12-2020 at 05:38 AM.
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    oh i thought its going to be more engaging in later levels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlite View Post
    so i made i made the switch from Wow classic to FF14 and i have a question. im only lvl 26 and i have been doing dungeons with a party. The only skill i really use in dungeon is Iron will + total eclipse and 95% of the time that will grab aggro no problem. Is it me or is that what you really do in tank roles, spam total eclipse?
    Basically. Do damage you get hate. Use cooldowns to survive.
    (They significantly dumbed down the tank role this expansion, before we had a tank and a dps stance to toggle but they removed it due to players expecting tanks to sit in DPS stance in raids)

    Trust me, tanks aren't happy with the changes, and you are seeing many veteran tanks leaving to DPS (same can be said with healers too). Currently the population hasn't change though because DPS role is so crowded and Tank role is now extremely easy to get into that DPS that couldn't stand the long queues or find raid groups went tank. However, this has resulted in the median of skill for tanks/healers being worse than Stormblood.
    We are unlikely to see SE make any changes until maybe 6.0 baised on thier current patches that have completely ignored tanks this expansion. (Like seriously there have been only 3 total buffs to tanks this expansion. 1 for a duration increase for our 30% mitiagion skill, 1 for Holmgang duration increase, and 1 for Shake it off buff.)
    TLDR: once you hit lvl 60 on all tanks you are basically looking at the end game of how tanks work at lvl 80 with only very minor changes.
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    Last edited by BarretOblivion; 05-12-2020 at 04:48 AM.

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    Ah, the tanks in Wow classic, they are allowed go main tank with a Dual wield fury DPS spec. I just wish the tanks in this game are as engaging.
    Oh well im almost 30, almost can pick paladin, i shall see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlite View Post
    Ah, the tanks in Wow classic, they are allowed go main tank with a Dual wield fury DPS spec. I just wish the tanks in this game are as engaging.
    Oh well im almost 30, almost can pick paladin, i shall see how that goes.
    GNB/DRK have somewhat a resource system to switch their AOEs than spamming 2 buttons.
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    Aggro isn't really a thing anymore, WoW made the same change back in I think WotLK or so. There are more abilities you just don't need them to generate threat.
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    AoE rotations still remain pretty easy for tanks here at the moment. In the case for your Paladin, it is something like this for level 80 AoE.

    Physical Combo: Total Eclipse > Prominence

    At full mana: Requiescat off global > Holy Circle x 4 > Confiteor

    Rinse and repeat back to the Physical Combo.

    Circle of Scorn is also an off global cooldown used to damage and place a DoT on all enemies at level 50.
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    ok that sounds simple, but does it get more fun in the later level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlite View Post
    ok that sounds simple, but does it get more fun in the later level?
    Obviously you wanna use your buffs (requiescat/FoF) and your tank role skills like low blow and reprisal as needed. But yes, of course it gets a lot more interesting later on when you account for end game.

    Things will get more engaging as you get involved in 8-man content, even the lvl 50, 60, 70 stuff as you progress through story. However, nothing is quite as engaging as endgame 8-man content, like savage or ultimates if you're not satisfied yet lol.
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