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  1. #51
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    The WoL is actually the villain that set the whole story of FFXIV in motion. They came up with the concept for the Hero in the days of Amaurot, but the idea for a hero requires an opposing force or threat to stop. Given this, the other members of the Convocation rejected the idea, causing the ancient form of the WoL to unwittingly bring about the end of the world with their secret creation lab, a "Devil's Lab," if you will, hidden in the underground.

    Only, the creations the WoL brought about wrested free from his control, gaining souls without consent, and they were far too powerful for his "heroic" self to stop. Events snowballed into the calamity. In the present, we play the WoL with amnesia of their past self. Now we get to fulfill the concept of a Hero, through and through.

    We didn't join up with the Hydaelyn creators because we believed ourselves only capable of making monsters. Plus, we had to contend with our misbegotten creations still left from the Devil's Lab, which were now tied to Zodiark, because we tied them to the planet itself in the form of elemental avatars. Being tied to Zodiark meant that he would not erase them.

    So when we make the Primals in Eden, the reason they come out looking completely different is because we're actually unwittingly drawing on our first memories of them, when we made them through the lab in the past. This is why Titan has an ATV.

    The only exception being Shiva, but this is only a silly thing I cooked up as an excuse for the game to reference the Magitek Research Facility... and more importantly remix Devil's Lab. God, I would kill for that. And yeah, I know, Castrum Abania references both the Magitek Research Facility and Mako Reactors pods within its dungeon design, but I want big glass tubes with Phantom Beasts floating in transparent goo, dang it!
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    The only exception being Shiva, but this is only a silly thing I cooked up as an excuse for the game to reference the Magitek Research Facility... and more importantly remix Devil's Lab. God, I would kill for that. And yeah, I know, Castrum Abania references both the Magitek Research Facility and Mako Reactors pods within its dungeon design, but I want big glass tubes with Phantom Beasts floating in transparent goo, dang it!
    Not just that, the Magitek Research Facility is a literal area of the Praetorium, specifically the section where you're piloting magitek armour and have to blow away Protoultima Arms that block your way. Alas, it lacks Devil's Lab... But the Magitek Research Facility is already in the game.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 03-27-2020 at 08:10 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Not just that, the Magitek Research Facility is a literal area of the Praetorium, specifically the section where you're piloting magitek armour and have to blow away Protoultima Arms that block your way. Alas, it lacks Devil's Lab... But the Magitek Research Facility is already in the game.
    Remind me to go through Praetorium even more slowly next time I get it. MSQ roulette has been nothing but Castrum lately...
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    One of Gosetsu's grandfathers was hyur. I know Koji said that he isn't mixed-race like Hilda, so -> grandparent (slightly different! ).

    There is a population of refugee Raen Au Ra in Thanalan that fled there decades ago when the empire started expanding into Othard. Narumi of the Songbirds is from that community.
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    Last edited by Naria; 03-29-2020 at 01:41 PM.

  5. #55
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    Off the top of my head, these are a few of the personal head canons I've been calling for years:
    • Godbert and Julyan are the final bosses of the FFXIV universe-- and their vast wealth makes them the first verified Trillionaires
    • Rowena is second to them on the Trillionaires list-- and Gerolt wants to keep helping her get richer so that one day he can remarry her, file for divorce (again?), then claim half. Either that or both of them have always been in cahoot and have been laughing at all our backs for ages-- plus, Drake is their secret son. Aaah yes-- Gerolt is also actually both Rhalgr and Bygrot-- just depends on how drunk he is.
    • Gaius, the six Coco brothers and three Ascians were all in a band-- they went touring in masked disguise for years. Gaius can play the guitars, drums and the sax-- when the three Ascians demanded extra royalties and that he stop making them look bad on stage, he permanently hushed them up-- then kept their masks as souvenirs.
    • Aymeric likes getting impossibly drunk with me every time I visit Ishgard and he makes it a point to puke on House Dzemael's doorsteps afterwards-- you see, they've recently developed a habit of constantly annoying him in the new House of Lords. It's also why he took away all their construction contracts and gave them to House Haillenarte.
    • By the way, Aymeric is still clueless about Lucia's advances so she continues to ship several of his fangirls off to Ghimlyt-- as a former elite operative, she's brilliant at eliminating the competition
    • Hydaelyn and Zodiark are petulant twin siblings who started this whole silly business all because of a disagreement about which anime to watch-- we really should be worrying about how messed up things will really get when their parents return from vacation.
    • Which begs the question-- any correlation between Hydaelyn + Zodiark's parents and the two "individuals" referred to in item number one of this list? What does that make Hildy?
    • Cid and Nero are absolutely besotted with one another-- the intellectual innovations from their union amasses them enough wealth to place third on the Trillionaires list. They are also the true inventors of Omega-- they went back in time, built an AI they couldn't control, then came back to the present hoping nobody will notice their screw up.
    • Other shippings happening are Hein + Cirina; Magnai + Sadu; Tataru + Wedge; Aldis + Mylla; Rhoswen + Carvallain-- by the way, anyone notice how recently Pipin becomes very flustered every time the Sultana passes nearby?
    • Speaking of relationships-- Zenos is just obsessively enamoured with us because even after he tried to impress by turning into Shinryu, we still didn't give him the hug he always wanted-- a simple hug. He still doesn't understand that we can't stand him because of his insanely excessive sweet tooth.
    • While we're on the matter of Zenos, I reckon he has a very formidable sister who has been backpacking through Hydaelyn--and while passing through Dalmasca, she became secret besties with Fran and Ashe. Rumour holds that they want to start a Sisterhood but need a fourth member.
    • Kan-E-Senna likes to wear multi-coloured stockings which have now become the fashion rage of Gridania-- however, her two siblings vehemently disapprove.
    • Not to be outdone, the illustrious Admiral Merlwyb has also fitted the entire insides of her coat with multi-coloured velvet-- and then took it a step further by commissioning the embroidery of her beloved destrier chocobo Vicky on all her gloves. Her approval rating has now rocketed to 98% amoung the Limsa populace.
    • Raubhan truly and absolutely LOVES karaoke-- and has a surprisingly great voice.
    • Also not to be outdone, Hien has now tried to take up karaoke as well-- nobody has the galls to tell him his singing voice is horrible. However, he's incredibly unbeatable at Mahjong, Lord of Verminion, and Triple Triad-- remember that he once had a lot of time on his hands.
    • Emet dyed his hair electric blue way too many times just so he could stand out amoungst his brethren-- his trademark white lock is as a result of the persistent over-dying.
    • That chocobo carriage man from opening cutscene for 1.0 or 2.0 Ul'Dah? He's definitely alive and has already figured out how to transverse between all the fourteen shards -- go look at the intro cutscenes for Shadowbringers, he's right there...again. I reckon the Exarch is slacking and needs to have a chat with him-- could learn a thing or two.
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    Last edited by Ramesses; 03-29-2020 at 09:23 PM. Reason: Minfilia demanded I retract all canons related to her and Thancred

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    [*] He's definitely alive and has already figured out how to transverse between all the fourteen shards[/LIST]
    Not anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Not anymore...
    ...Oh?

    After taking both my main Xters through Shadowbringers up to 5.21-- and now taking my third Xter on Diabolos through SB-- I obviously have no idea what could have befallen the chap.

    That's strange-- what happened to the ol'gezzer?
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    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    ...Oh?

    After taking both my main Xters through Shadowbringers up to 5.21-- and now taking my third Xter on Diabolos through SB-- I obviously have no idea what could have befallen the chap.

    That's strange-- what happened to the ol'gezzer?
    If you think he's the guy who greets you upon landing on The First, then he is heavily implied to have been turned into a Sineater, which is promptly killed by Lyna and The Crystarium Guard.
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    I presumed the merchant hadn't turned into a sineater insomuch as that sineater devoured him - it left behind his distinctive ring after Lyna slew it which the WoL of course immediately recongizes and seemed to believe that was what happened. Either way, he met a sticky end no matter how you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I presumed the merchant hadn't turned into a sineater insomuch as that sineater devoured him - it left behind his distinctive ring after Lyna slew it which the WoL of course immediately recongizes and seemed to believe that was what happened. Either way, he met a sticky end no matter how you look at it.
    This ^ /10char

    I will say, however, that he is (was) probably the First's soul counterpoint to that merchant dude from the original opening cutscene in much the same way that the AF gear dude Grenoldt is for Gerolt and the WoL is for the WoD/L. So not the same person, but also kind of sort of in a way.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 03-31-2020 at 06:35 AM.

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