establish agro is a joke in this expansion and it was before as long you keep tank stance on, the moment you use a single aoe on a dungeon pull or you ranged attack on a boss bam you have agro secured in any pull, seriously don't promote useless habits ppl, specially if you use agro as a excuse bcs no just no, just go ahead of you party go to the crowd and use your aoes, it's easy, there is no need to stay stuck in the floor 2.5s on every pack letting them hurt you party bcs you are casting clemency for agro, it's not optimal at all specially when every add come to hug you when they see you all together so nicely like a family to use you aoes, and if is not you it's your healer but for that they have to pass you first and you can use you aoes anyway quickly and more faster apart of being a dps gain always, save the heals when they are need it like reducing the amount of work of you healer on mass pulling with GNB and WAR and for PLD only on case of extreme necesity, but extreme extreme necesity, other wise never use clemency for such things.