PLDs: You have Clemency for a reason.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

frankly, 1 GCD and MP that is *entirely* recovered from a single consumable (that is an effective oGCD)... is alot less wasteful than 2-3 GCDs. it's almost as if you use 1440 MP, use an oGCD to recover 1500-1800 MP, and by the time your GCD is back up... your MP is full again AND you get your "holy" spell! all for the cost of.... your pride, I guess? I wasnt aware this was a topic of shield lob being a DPS gain.


Honestly, if a single use of 600 effective potency worth of aggro isnt enough to hold aggro for the 2-3 second its takes for a mob to reach you, you need far, far better gear. Tomestone gear is probably better than the greens you've picked up in grand cosmos. I would start there.

going to make a small edit here, since my memory is garbage;
but clemency actually costs 2000 and not 1440, and im struggling to remember how i got that in my head. regardless, even at 80, you get 1800 from a HQ super ether, and 200 is still not only within Req range, but but is recovered DURING req to still get 4casts+confiteor. MP management is hardly that "tight" for paladin.

Tbh, I've never had to cast clemency once for aggro, is it do-able certainly, is it worth? Most definitely not.

If someone, let's say the healer, has regen'd you as you're pulling packs, and a couple have latched onto the healer, you should keep running until you've reached your desired stop point then AoE spam and pop cooldowns as needed. In this time any stray stragglers the healer had, should have been brought into the pack and caught in your AoE spam.

Yes you do get idiots that panic and run around like headless chickens, but as said they are in fact idiots, and you'll probably have to move to them. (But they aren't too common. Uncommon events aren't enough to be a justification).

It's as simple as that, throwing Clemency in the mix for aggro, is like PF, trying to be big brain but end up with an inferior strat.
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Also worth noting how busted PLD AoE actually is in requiescat, especially the pack after first boss in Copied Factory where I can peak to ~65k. If you Clemency to get aggro, might miss out on that spike.