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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Then what is this "the equivalent of 1" stuff you're saying? It's not the equivalent of 1 GCD, it's literally 2 GCDs.
    I was referring to the amount of time that one Clemency (thus once GCD) could keep the PLD going until more healing was needed.

    Scenario A...

    PLD casts one Holy Circle/Holy Spirit, receives zero healing from himself, needs heals from healer.

    Scenario B...

    PLD casts one Clemency, receives a decently large heal, esp. with Req, which keeps him alive long enough for a healer to cast 2-3 AoE damage spells.

    2-3 AoE damage spells are going to do more damage than one Holy Circle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    I was referring to
    You're not the person I was speaking to, and the subject of discussion was double vercure.

    Also 2-3 holy circles are going to do more damage than 2-3 healer AoEs, if the healer needs to resort to GCD healing then the priority is on them to stop damaging and start healing, rather than on the second party to know what the healer is doing and adjust for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    I was referring to the amount of time that one Clemency (thus once GCD) could keep the PLD going until more healing was needed.

    Scenario A...

    PLD casts one Holy Circle/Holy Spirit, receives zero healing from himself, needs heals from healer.

    Scenario B...

    PLD casts one Clemency, receives a decently large heal, esp. with Req, which keeps him alive long enough for a healer to cast 2-3 AoE damage spells.

    2-3 AoE damage spells are going to do more damage than one Holy Circle.
    I believe I blatantly pointed out how completely and irrevocably wrong this statement was, in this very thread already, and also congratulated you on knowing 2 or 3 is more than 1.
    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    Sorry but you CANNOT justify false equations to make your pathetic point.

    375 +375 > 140 + 140. 375 + 375 + 375 >>160 + 160 + 160.

    ^ this is the accurate equation you are looking for, you cannot compare 2 or 3 GCDs versus 1 GCD, this is moving goalpost to make your argument. You have to factor equal GCD usage from both parties.

    But well done, you know 2 and 3 is more than 1, congratulations. Think you trying to justify your point is the most laughable thing on this entire thread.
    To save you the hassle of scrolling back through the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    I believe I blatantly pointed out how completely and irrevocably wrong this statement was, in this very thread already, and also congratulated you on knowing 2 or 3 is more than 1.


    To save you the hassle of scrolling back through the thread.
    I didn't see it buried in the thread, but that's also faulty.

    You wanna know why?

    Because the PLD is going to be doing other things.

    Let's say the PLD pops Req and has 10,000MP like he should.

    He pops 4 Holy Circles, and then he has a choice. He's at 30-50% left. He could pop 1 more Holy Circle and use the last of his MP, or he could pop 1 Clemency instead. If he pops 1 Clemency, he gives the healer more time to AoE before they have to stop and heal him, probably 2-3 AoEs worth. Obviously while the healer is doing that, he's doing Eclipse and Prominence, or whatever while the healer is throwing their AoEs.

    Or he could just pop the last Holy Circle and now the healer has to stop their AoE and heal him because he's at 30% or less (or will be within a GCD or two).

    You're basically offering a choice between 1 Holy Circle, or 2-3 more Healer AoEs in that situation. He can't do two Holy Circles because he only has 2,000MP left (not counting the few hundred he would have regained during those 5 GCDs, obviously).
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