Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
Then it's on you to do better recruiting, be quicker to dismiss those you feel aren't improving or co-operating in a civil manner. It'll be on them to find a party that'll tolerate their performance or work with them to improve. Again, finding people that work well with you, is part of the game.
See I have the luck of not dealing with the pugs most of the time if at all, but it doesnt take away from my points given there are many of us who do.

But this isnt about my runs or Arthars, This is about people learning that making others do work for you is toxic in it of itself. This game needs something for people to weed out those who do not perform and the community should make sure those who do not seek to improve dont go in runs for Savage or EX trials.

DF is a mixed bag but thats solved by joining and or creating communities of competent players so you can avoid dealing with them. And yes while others and myself are capable of being civil and usually the ones being civil and offering help its usually met with some sarcastic remark or outright rudeness and then a 30 min penalty due to it not being worth the trouble.

And yet more and more content gets dumbed down, the people who do savage and ultimate only have around 5% of content in this game thats geared towards them, the people who want a challenge. Yet, at every turn there are people who want content to be dumbed down, classes to be dumbed down, runs to be dumbed down. This does affect the community at large. Again why should other give up what they find fun when all others have to do is Improve. That question is never answered. The defence is always made for those who dont consider others play styles or forms of fun, yet we always consider others and leave them be.