No More Big Pulls in Dungeons

[Doozer]

Speak for yourself. When I heal I find small pulls exceedingly boring. Moreover people have been doing large pulls in level cap dungeons forever with minimal trouble. Its not new and is the norm for those dungeons. I'd say if you want to play outside the norm, youre the one that needs to form your own party.

I did speak for myself. You can't just throw that in like a trump card as an argument against whatever I said.

I don't want to further injure my wrist because someone is in a hurry to be in a hurry. And just because the herd is doing it, that doesn't mean I have to conform to that. People swear that healer queues are instant anyway, so go ahead and kick me because you died despite me casting literally as fast as I possibly can, I'll get back in with a tank that actually respects me and doesn't see me as a "heal slut" or whatever it is they call healers these days.

[SturmChurro]

I did speak for myself. You can't just throw that in like a trump card as an argument against whatever I said.

I don't want to further injure my wrist because someone is in a hurry to be in a hurry. And just because the herd is doing it, that doesn't mean I have to conform to that. People swear that healer queues are instant anyway, so go ahead and kick me because you died despite me casting literally as fast as I possibly can, I'll get back in with a tank that actually respects me and doesn't see me as a "heal slut" or whatever it is they call healers these days.

Injure your wrist?

[Doozer]

Injure your wrist?

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

[SturmChurro]

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

Hmm, you should try key mapping changes, or maybe an mmo mouse.

[LeonTrifang]

I as a tank am scared and panic real easy. I work best in the back, hitting people with rocks (Or light now I suppose) and beams of ancient destruction, while also keeping everyone alive. Though as a tank, I fully understand that everyone with me, has a life. I prefer not to waste anyone's time. So I push past my fear and always strive to at least do normal pulls in every dungeon. (Two mobs) This isn't just about your feelings. Everyone is playing this game too. As a leader, you want to get your team in and out as quickly and safely as you can. That means trusting your healer, and pulling what you both can handle. Aoe damage is a thing. And it helps. Trust me.

[Doozer]

Hmm, you should try key mapping changes, or maybe an mmo mouse.

I used to have an MMO mouse but I can't really re-learn to hit like 12 buttons with my thumb. But it happens no matter what I'm playing, if it's PC or console, if I play for too long or do way too many button presses in play session (like yesterday, I was mashing the button for Benefic II to try to heal that tank as quickly as my GCD would let me), so I just try not to play too much at a time, and not cause myself any unneeded stress.

However, that shouldn't mean that I'm the one that needs to set up a PF for every single duty, just to avoid that. It's always funny that people favor the ones that want to do things fast, or the meta, or whatever, and show no sympathy for people who go against that. It's not even with malice, I just can't do speedruns of every duty when I'm playing.

[Shurrikhan]

most people on the "healer" forum want to be green DPS ... i have never seen so many "healers" want more/better damage rotations.

Most people like having more than 2-3 GCDs worth pressing. Since the devs apparently aren't willing to actually give us any more healing to do (except via intentional wastefulness)... what else would you expect?

[MitsukiKimura]

I'm gonna go on a bit of a rant here...

It irks me greatly when I'm in a dungeon duty and a tank is pulling multiple skirmishes at once, even as much as an entire leg of a dungeon. This is neither smart nor effective, especially if a healer cannot contribute to the damage dealing because (s)he is too busy trying to keep everybody alive and expending his/her entire MP pool in the process. It's even more irritating when I as a tank am being asked to pull more than one skirmish, and people start getting salty or even quitting because they don't like my pace.

IT'S NOT A RACE, PEOPLE!!! When you do a dungeon, you are committed to it for 90 minutes, and while it should never take nearly that long with a decent party, there's no need to attempt to blitz through it and risk a wipe, either. Stop trying to be a hero, and concentrate your attacks on one enemy at a time! I guarantee, they will go down a lot quicker individually, than if you try to take out 213128901 of them at once.

I personally enjoy when the tank pulls a large group of mobs, I can actually heal instead of having to DPS the mobs. Though I will not force my tank to do something they don't feel comfortable with but no dungeon should take 90 minutes even with small pulls. Seeing as most dps have been buffed, tank cooldown duration have been increased, I personally welcome it.

[Lambdafish]

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

I'll try my best not to sound like an ass, but that's not the communities problem, that's your problem. If you don't want large pulls, it's not difficult to say "hey guys, I have a wrist injury, would you mind doing smaller pull, I'd much appreciate it". Having a vendetta against big pulls just puts you in the wrong, having communication in the run is the best way to solve all situations.

[Sebazy]

That's the exact opposite of a healer that knows what they're doing. Healing takes priority, and you should never, ever, let your tanks health dip low willingly, especially in newer content where tank busters are exceedingly common.

Tank busters are not common in dungeons. Regen and Asylum are often enough to get through a pull if the tank is decent and the DPS are awake. That gives me 20 to 30 seconds to do..... DPS.

Did I not spell it right? I injured my wrist about a decade ago, and it still flares up from time to time, usually after having to strain myself to keep a tank alive that insists on big pulls and/or won't use their defensive skills.

There's always a way round these things. You're far from the only person carrying injuries here, you've just not thought outside the box on ways to get around it. In ARR I alternated between a free spinning mouse wheel and foot pedals for Embrace spam on SCH and from HW I switched over to a toggleable repeating macro on my keyboard that was emulating a gamepad button press for it so rather than smashing it thousands of times in a progression raid evening, I just toggled it on and off as needed.

You can also help yourself by picking your jobs a bit more sensibly. Wrist Injury > AST as your healer? Picking the busiest healer job that has the hardest time with large pulls? Pls. Get some initiative and stop making your problem everyone elses and then some.

Also, daily reminder that this is a pretty obvious troll topic. Lets not forget that.