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  1. #81
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    rachcouture's Avatar
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    What emergencies? This thread is about dungeons.
    Dungeons in duty finder tend not to go as planned.

    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Saving them is inefficient. OGCD's heal for no MP, are faster than most GCD heals, and allow for more DPS uptime (which is beneficial for healing). The best way to use them is as your primary heals to avoid getting into emergencies in the first place.

    50% for the tank isn't even concerning really. WHM can 100% heal every 3 minutes and gets 100% damage reduction on basically every pull, One of SCH's main heals won't activate above that threshold. If you keep the tank above 50% all the time, you're just increasing the work you need to put into healing for no gain. Especially if you're only using GCD heals.

    Your experience is your own and you're free to act on it as you want, but allowing the tank to get low on HP isn't a form of negligence. The healers that let you die either weren't good or didn't have great synergy with you.
    I don't care about efficiency. What I do care about is being prepared for the unexpected, something that's a given when you're playing with people you know nothing about.

    50% for the tank is EXTREMELY concerning. All it takes is the right sequence of attacks and it's a wipe, plain and simple. Spells like Benediction and Excogitation are specifically designed as emergency skills; they aren't a crutch, and you should never abuse them as such.

    Willful negligence is still negligence. I also don't think it was synergy when BOTH healers when I was tanking the trash monster in Alex and both let me burn on a boss that doesn't even do much damage today. Regardless, I don't think a level 15 THM alt really has any room to give people advice on healing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I don't know how you can hold them for such situations.. bosses, even certain pulls, mobs, pretty much force you to use them 71+. I learned this the hard way on my first go in Holminster Switch. I mean I WISH they could be used like that, because I feel right now they are just crutches, but there is really no way to reliably to keep things stable with slow as molasses cure 2, and underpowered Cure 1.
    Regen + shields + buffs and precasting. I'm not saying that you'll never use them (everyone does and should as-needed), but they're not option #1, either.
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  2. #82
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    Jimmymagic's Avatar
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    Hector Dragonslayer
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Khavir View Post
    Thats some grade A bait.
    Trolltastic
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  3. #83
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    Wolfsbane706's Avatar
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    Kaplan Zereort
    World
    Marilith
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    Summoner Lv 82
    Frankly, wall-to-wall pullers and speedrunners can go jump a cliff. At the same time, though, two or three groups at a time is my preferred pace.
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    Kaplan Zereort, the Forever Penniless
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  4. #84
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Character
    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I gave up on that topic. Just accept the fact that its going to happen OP, whether you like it or not. If you are healer, just try and deal with the situation as best as you can.
    Good luck
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  5. #85
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706 View Post
    Frankly, wall-to-wall pullers and speedrunners can go jump a cliff. At the same time, though, two or three groups at a time is my preferred pace.
    In most of the dungeons wall to wall is 2-3 groups.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Maybe its because aoe is fun and satisfying.

    And if you're playing healer you're less likely to fall asleep.
    I heard this a lot now lately ppl getting sleepy all times, do you guys never sleep?
    Get rest before start gaming oki.
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  7. #87
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    Dungeons in duty finder tend not to go as planned.
    Yes, they do lol. Every mob spawns in the same place every time, they do the same attacks in the same order every time, the mechanics and incoming damage are the same and the environment is the same. I don't find myself constantly running into emergencies and surprises in dungeons so how come you do?

    Every healer has multiple oGCDs for both single target and aoe, at least 3 healing buffs, Rescue and Swiftcast. There is no reason to not use free heals and buffs even if you want to keep one available in case of mistakes. The worst healers I see are those who only cast Cure, Medica, Regen and equivalents. They are so unaccustomed to using their other buttons that when someone eats an aoe they can't keep up anymore.
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  8. #88
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    If you're not using your cooldowns, you're wasting them. Hit those buttons!
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  9. #89
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706 View Post
    Frankly, wall-to-wall pullers and speedrunners can go jump a cliff. At the same time, though, two or three groups at a time is my preferred pace.
    Two or three groups pretty much is wall to wall lmao.
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  10. #90
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    If you don't like it, you have several options :

    - You accept it and do the content as the group (tank & healer) choose to.
    - You leave
    - You do pf with your expectation
    - You play with people on your friendlist/linkshell or other groups that share your opinion.

    Besides, this is more effective. Mobs die faster with aoe fest.

    But whining on forums won't grant you a better game experience.
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