crafting is gone

[hydralus]

But cant say how hard Master 2 and up will be.

I don't know what you mean by Master 2 but the 460 crafting/gathering gear looks like it'll be a cakewalk. I'm not the best crafter around and I was just doing some testing but I was able to get ~30000 quality discounting times I got good procs (which means I'd need 14K starting quality, or 7 HQ materials in the recipe) and had 27CP to spare, not using a single RNG-based skill. So, very macro-able.

[NanaWiloh]

I don't know what you mean by Master 2 but the 460 crafting/gathering gear looks like it'll be a cakewalk. I'm not the best crafter around and I was just doing some testing but I was able to get ~30000 quality discounting times I got good procs (which means I'd need 14K starting quality, or 7 HQ materials in the recipe) and had 27CP to spare, not using a single RNG-based skill. So, very macro-able.

Sorry meant master 7 and thank you for the information.

[Callinon]

I don't know what you mean by Master 2 but the 460 crafting/gathering gear looks like it'll be a cakewalk. I'm not the best crafter around and I was just doing some testing but I was able to get ~30000 quality discounting times I got good procs (which means I'd need 14K starting quality, or 7 HQ materials in the recipe) and had 27CP to spare, not using a single RNG-based skill. So, very macro-able.

Interesting. I haven't sim'd any of the new stuff yet, but I will point out that material sourcing for new facet gear is going to be a thing. At least until the materials market catches up. I know one vital ingredient comes exclusively from desynthesis... so that's good times.

[hydralus]

Interesting. I haven't sim'd any of the new stuff yet, but I will point out that material sourcing for new facet gear is going to be a thing. At least until the materials market catches up. I know one vital ingredient comes exclusively from desynthesis... so that's good times.

The facet tools? What ingredient is that? Looks like everything can be either gathered or crafted or bought from the scrip vendors.

[RyuSaarva]

Interesting. I haven't sim'd any of the new stuff yet, but I will point out that material sourcing for new facet gear is going to be a thing. At least until the materials market catches up. I know one vital ingredient comes exclusively from desynthesis... so that's good times.

nope, nothing comes from desynthesis, if you are thinking about the fiber glass items, square already nerfed those items and you just craft them now and if you talk about aethersand, they come from old aetherical reduction items and are easy to get + you can also buy them with scripts.

[Tomoebi]

i know it will getting easier, but after experimenting a bit. the change seems overkill lol, its really easy to make a hq now.
why bother with nq and hq then???

I'd rather crafting was deterministic. I want what I do to dictate the quality and success of my crafting. So yeah, that 12-year old COULD craft under that system. And he can shout at the crafting bar while he's doing it.. whatever gets him going.

There's nothing rewarding about luck unless you're a gambler. Let me put that another way: You go to a casino, you place a bet on the roulette table. The wheel comes up and you're a winner! Was that because of anything you did? No. No it wasn't. You had zero influence over that wheel. You just got lucky that it matched your bet.

Now do I expect this to end up THAT random? I do not. But the principle is the same. When the success or failure of a crafting session is down to luck instead of the actions I choose to take, that's actually just bad design. Frankly, that feels MORE like a phone game since you brought it up.

except crafting is not roulette, if we compare it to gambling then it will make more sense to compare it with poker. roulette is pure luck, while poker have mathematical component to it.

>You had zero influence over that wheel
this will be a good comparison if crafter doesnt have any control, which is of course, not true at all.
you do have influence over that wheel.
the easiest one will be when "good" status proc, will you use touch or trick of trade? what buff still up when this status proc? and so on and so forth, heck in my early level days i use calculator on pc to calculate some stuff

[Callinon]

The facet tools? What ingredient is that? Looks like everything can be either gathered or crafted or bought from the scrip vendors.

nope, nothing comes from desynthesis, if you are thinking about the fiber glass items, square already nerfed those items and you just craft them now and if you talk about aethersand, they come from old aetherical reduction items and are easy to get + you can also buy them with scripts.

I was talking about the sublime solution. But I haven't checked scrip vendors to see if they sell it, that's a possibility. All I know about it so far is I got it from desynthing something and the market board had no earthly idea what it was.

Also the search functions don't seem to care that new recipes have been added... so that's fun.

EDIT: Yeah ok, it's sold for white scrip. Seems like you'd need kind of a lot of it too so that's neat.

[Callinon]

except crafting is not roulette, if we compare it to gambling then it will make more sense to compare it with poker. roulette is pure luck, while poker have mathematical component to it.

>You had zero influence over that wheel
this will be a good comparison if crafter doesnt have any control, which is of course, not true at all.
you do have influence over that wheel.
the easiest one will be when "good" status proc, will you use touch or trick of trade? what buff still up when this status proc? and so on and so forth, heck in my early level days i use calculator on pc to calculate some stuff

Ok... read the entire post you're quoting. It's not that long.

[Liam_Harper]

I was talking about the sublime solution. But I haven't checked scrip vendors to see if they sell it, that's a possibility. All I know about it so far is I got it from desynthing something and the market board had no earthly idea what it was.

125 white scrips. Fairly easy to farm by spamming tinctures for Rowena. Interesting to know it's a desynth too, what did you desynth to get it?

[Callinon]

125 white scrips. Fairly easy to farm by spamming tinctures for Rowena. Interesting to know it's a desynth too, what did you desynth to get it?

I was plowing through a big stockpile of random garbage I'd been accumulating over the week. Pretty sure it was something leather. I can tell you for sure I didn't need any desynth skill for it since my LTW desynth is like .. 2.