crafting is gone

[Liam_Harper]

You afraid other crafters will now come in and threatened your stockpiles of gil. Some of you have so much gil you'd never use it all but can't stand the thought of more crafters moving up through the ranks and taking a piece of the pie.

I'm surprised this mindset is still a thing.

High end crafters don't care because, as you said, we have more gil than we'd ever use. Even if you nerf crafting to the ground, we'll make far more gil because we have patience and can learn the markets. We don't need gil, it's a side-distraction, we just want something at the high end to keep us occupied.

The thing casual crafters don't realize is there is only one pie. By that I mean there are a limited number of buyers in any market. What do you think happens when a single pie is offered to everyone? It has to be divided among 10000 and all you get is a crumb. You'll never get that slice you grudged us for, because the slice took a lot of work and patience and it's impossible to divide among an entire player-base. Now you've destroyed that pie in your greed to have it (Facet gear is completely worthless and sells for peanuts) and will never make the sort of gil we have because nothing you make is worth anything. Enjoy.

[EaMett]

ingenuity is op now, it gives a massive boost to you, the element combo skill is a better version of the original piece by piece.

Yet it's not enough for me to get back what I had. I'm just saying, like everything else they've done recently. They've lowered the skill cap overall but also the ability to push some rotations pretty far. Now I'll have to spend more time gearing up instead of trying to be smart about my rotation, that's all.

[MomomiMomi]

I don't see it as easy to come by unless I am missing some gil-making scheme.

Currently tomestone mats are about 500k for 2000 goetia. That's pretty much passive income since you earn that from doing pretty much anything.

Did some treasure maps just for fun the other day. In 4-5 maps, the three of us doing them collectively earned about 10 million gil.

Earning gil is a joke on this game.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

it's not 1/3 of the total now always, the progress drop is much smaller now, you can only use the element combo and then finish the craft with 1 other skill.

EDIT: Nevermind I see it now. I was misreading the Name of Elements toolltip

[Barraind]

Do I still need to level every craft to efficiently make good items?
Like is there still cross-class skills I need to get now?

You can ignore culinarian.

But cul is super easy to level because it has easily spammable stuff every step of the way.

Yet it's not enough for me to get back what I had.

If you were melded to even the comfy melding recommendations, rotations now can do everything the old rotations can do.

If you were melded perfectly, your results now are a step above where they were before the patch.

Basically, if you could craft 5.05 items before, you can craft 5.1 items now, likely with fewer hq mats.

[EaMett]

You can ignore culinarian.

But cul is super easy to level because it has easily spammable stuff every step of the way.




If you were melded to even the comfy melding recommendations, rotations now can do everything the old rotations can do.

If you were melded perfectly, your results now are a step above where they were before the patch.

Basically, if you could craft 5.05 items before, you can craft 5.1 items now, likely with fewer hq mats.

Oh you must've missed my original post. I basically had crap gear but could still hq stuff (tinctures 2) with the old system (-with- reuse). Now I can't get a rotation as good as that. I get HQ no problem but not enough CP left for reuse. I posted my stats on the offchance I was missing something so people could try their hands on the simulators but alas that has been a dead end so far.

TLDR; I made heavy use of a lot of specialist skills in my previous rotation, new system can't seem to make up for it.

[RyuSaarva]

well your cp seems low, just remove all your craftmanship and control materia from the 100% slots and put CP there if you are not going to overmeld at all and try to use other quality skills if you are just spamming the same one over and over again.

[Khalithar]

It was absolute carnage when I logged in and saw more than half of my abilities were removed. Crazy stuff.

I never even used macros either, my crafting was done strictly free form as I enjoyed the decision making process and prioritizing that went through it. I'll especially miss steady hand 2 and gambling on RNG.

[Bonbori]

Soooooo... has this thread realised that crafting is still around, totally fine, and in fact better than ever, yet?

I love the new macros, they're slightly shorter than my old ones n_n

[Brill_]

Not having to deal with hasty touch failing 10 times in a row has done wonders for my blood pressure.