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  1. #261
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    XenabelleS's Avatar
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    Xenabelle Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    Well, they mention in the Dengeki interview that endgame crafts will have procs for the first time ever, which, means you actually have to understand crafting to HQ endgame recipes. That, and the fact that quality requirements will undoubtedly be higher endgame. In other words, making it more difficult.

    A welcome change tbh. Glad they listened.
    It's not "more difficult." A RNG heavy endgame in crafting benefits :

    a) those with deep pockets or a great deal of time that can afford to get the materials required to do a craft enough times to get a success
    b) those with the best/most melded gear which also requires deep pockets or a great deal of time

    So I'm not surprised you are happy. You'll be getting what you want. Crafting to mostly benefit those that are "hardcore". Congratulations.
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  2. #262
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    So the only people who can succeed at endgaming crafting are NEETs? :/
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  3. #263
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    So the only people who can succeed at endgaming crafting are NEETs? :/
    yes if the ability of reading what your skills do make you a neet.
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  4. #264
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    I love the crafting changes.

    I spent ~10 HOURS today doing nothing but crafting and gathering.

    I had a ridiculous amount of fun, and even now I'm tempted to go back to it even though it's almost a quarter after midnight for me.

    I had all of my DoH jobs on Level 70 today and I used Levequests to get them on 71... bought myself the Lv71 clothes and jewelry, along with a few tools to get started.

    At the end of the day, I made myself the rest of the Lv71 tools, a bunch of Lv71 weapons, and even got my BSM on 74 and made 74 tools for that, and 74 tools for MIN and BTN, all HQs. I had a complete blast, and it was awesome fun. Crafting actually feels accessible and do-able and not this giant brick wall of needing spreadsheets for everything, and not having to read guides and having to sift through 40+ buttons, many of which did the same dang thing but only a few % difference.

    I "got" the new system in minutes, it makes sense, it's streamlined and it just.... feels good, it flows well. It isn't so obtuse, it doesn't have so many extra buttons that just felt like fluff and clutter, and I could fit everything on 3 hotbars, where I couldn't before, I had to drop things off of my hotbars because 3 hotbars -- 36 slots -- was NOT enough to hold everything.

    I've not had this much fun in FFXIV for a very long time, and especially NOT with crafting. I did Beast Tribes from 50 all the way up to 70 because the crafting system just wasn't fun before.

    Now I am having a blast and I'm looking forward to getting more classes on 74 so I can make my own clothes this time rather than buying them.

    When I mined Bluespirit Ore, I had a 75% chance of success with the equipment I had. When I made the Lv74 Pickaxe and Sledgehammer, it jumped up to 95% and it just felt so good, that *I* did that. *I* made the tools myself. For the first time since Level 40 something, I made my own tools.

    It felt great.

    I love this new system.
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  5. #265
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    I like the update, really nice seeing the casual players have an easy time with the recipes! Only thing is, the endgame difficulty of recipes didn’t seem to change much, so I guess in the interview with Yoshida, those “difficult” recipes he was mentioning are probably Ishgard only recipes, and will probably have some sweet rewards which I assume will encourage hardcore players to do it.

    I assume it’s high stat gear and tools as the rewards.
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  6. #266
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    I like the update, really nice seeing the casual players have an easy time with the recipes! Only thing is, the endgame difficulty of recipes didn’t seem to change much, so I guess in the interview with Yoshida, those “difficult” recipes he was mentioning are probably Ishgard only recipes, and will probably have some sweet rewards which I assume will encourage hardcore players to do it.

    I assume it’s high stat gear and tools as the rewards.
    Either Ishgard, or maybe he was talking about the next expansion, because to be honest, I don't see how merely raising the numbers is going to change gameplay.

    They'd have to add a few buttons that require one to monitor the condition of the item or something.

    And I still think that Hasty Touch and a couple other buttons will eventually get conditionals to them or an upgrade or something, maybe in the next expansion.

    It would be awesome if, say, Hasty Touch were to get something that says "If item is Poor, then Hasty Touch has 100% success chance and uses no durability" or something like that.
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  7. #267
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    it's also funny how the legendary nodes were nerfed so bad that you now have 100% gathering chance without using any gathering increasing skills with old gear and not pentamelded and I still use stromblood bis accessories too.
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  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's also funny how the legendary nodes were nerfed so bad that you now have 100% gathering chance without using any gathering increasing skills with old gear and not pentamelded and I still use stromblood bis accessories too.
    Old legendary nodes, or new legendary nodes?

    If it's the new ones, then that is probably unintended and will be fixed.

    If it's the old ones, they probably don't see the point in making old content so hard to do. Kinda like how you can run old dungeons unsynch'd and easily steamroll them, or how even stuff like Shinryu now can be just mowed down even if you are synch'd compared to what he was at the end of Stormblood.
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  9. #269
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    Sunociva Mircea
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post

    Kinda like how you can run old dungeons unsynch'd and easily steamroll them
    You can run old dungeons unsynced?!
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  10. #270
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviconus View Post
    You can run old dungeons unsynced?!
    ....?

    I'm going to assume for a sec that's not sarcasm, but yes, you can go into duty finder, and go into options, and IIRC, it's something like "undersized party" you choose or something, but you can go in without level sync. You won't get XP, or drops off of normal mobs, but you will get treasure chests from bosses. I did this to quickly farm up the Brayflox set for my BLU. Took me like 2-3 minutes to run through Brayflox as a Lv70 RDM lol.
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