crafting is gone

[Alenonimo]

Crafting needed a real revamp. None of the biggest crafter players even bothered with manual crafting, because it was so stupidly complex. Macros all the way.

Having a much simplified system will make crafting fun again and we'll be much less dependant on crafting macros.

There was a crazy dude on reddit complaining that his 42 macros wouldn't work anymore. 42. I only need 10! :P

[Barraind]

There was a crazy dude on reddit complaining that his 42 macros wouldn't work anymore. 42. I only need 10

I have nfi what you need 42 for.


Mine currently are:

5.05 70 durability (2 buttons)
5.05 35 durability (2 buttons, for HQ'ing those stupid subcombines)
NQ 5.05 base mats (to skip HQ'ing those stupid subcombines)
Crypto/PTO Reuse
GRRRRRRRR (3 careful synth for level 74+ stuff you dont need hq, because one set of them doesnt complete after 2)
40 durability ShB (Yellow Scrip alchemist stuff)
80dur level 80 (level 79/80 white gear)
Onyx (To HQ onyx so you dont have to hq anything else in onyx recipes)

HW crafting 70dura (Reuse macro for level 60 glam)
SB crafting 70dura (Reuse macro for level 70 glam)
ARR crafting 70dura (Reuse macro for level 50 glam)

Weekly (for custom deliveries)
Syrup (For syrup scrips)

2 Reduce/reuse/recycle macros for stuff that uses really expensive primal mats.



Information (a macro that tells me what my CP needs to be for the 5.05 macros to work correctly in case I ever forget wtf I was doing)

and the best one:


? Info (A macro that tells me how I color coded all my macros in case I ever forget what I was doing)

/echo BLACK macros are for 70 durability current era items.
/echo YELLOW macros are for 35 durability current era items
/echo BLUE macros are for current era scrip turnins
/echo RED macros are for custom deliveries
/echo RING macros are for a specific HQ item
/echo TEAL macros are reuse macros for workshops
/echo PURPLE macros are for force NQ'ing crafts
/echo BREAD macros are the start of REUSE / RECLAIM macros

I have never used either of the trained eye moves because they are not good enough to even put on my hud when you can just reach 100% quality with 1-3 touch skills.

Cant roll my eyes hard enough at this. Its not only a waste of actions to not use Trained on anything that isnt a waste of time to HQ at present, but its a guaranteed max quality in 5.1.

[RyuSaarva]

I have never used either of the trained eye moves because they are not good enough to even put on my hud when you can just reach 100% quality with 1-3 touch skills.

[Rasikko]

So the changes look good, but I gotta say when Yoshida was talking about it, I was sitting there thinking.. "How is he ok with all those removed skills on his bars...?"

[Tint]

One of the reasons I only craft with macros is because I can't figure out a way how to put all these skills on my hotbar. And then I have to manually copy all these hotbars for all 8 crafters?

Writing macros is much less bloat and they work for all crafters as well.

I am looking forward to the changes.

[TalithaSolarien]

One of the reasons I only craft with macros is because I can't figure out a way how to put all these skills on my hotbar. And then I have to manually copy all these hotbars for all 8 crafters?

Writing macros is much less bloat and they work for all crafters as well.

I am looking forward to the changes.

The /hotbar copy (and it's controller equivalent /chotbar copy) commands can help you with that. I usually just prepare the hotbar for one class and then copy it over to the other crafters. I.e. /hotbar copy BSM 1 GSM 1 copies the 1st Blacksmith hotbar to the Goldsmith.

[Kuroka]

One of the reasons I only craft with macros is because I can't figure out a way how to put all these skills on my hotbar. And then I have to manually copy all these hotbars for all 8 crafters?

Writing macros is much less bloat and they work for all crafters as well.

I am looking forward to the changes.

No. To ALL who think this, you havent, just make a macro to copy paste it from one to the others.
im my case as i use crossbar and hotbars it looks like:

/chotbar copy GLD 1 GRS 1
/chotbar copy GLD 2 GRS 2
/chotbar copy GLD 3 GRS 3
/chotbar copy GLD 4 GRS 4
/chotbar copy GLD 5 GRS 5
/chotbar copy GLD 1 GRM 1
/chotbar copy GLD 2 GRM 2
/chotbar copy GLD 3 GRM 3
/chotbar copy GLD 4 GRM 4
/chotbar copy GLD 5 GRM 5
/chotbar copy GLD 1 PLA 1
/chotbar copy GLD 2 PLA 2
/chotbar copy GLD 3 PLA 3
/chotbar copy GLD 4 PLA 4
/chotbar copy GLD 5 PLA 5

and

/hotbar copy GLD 1 GRS 1
/hotbar copy GLD 3 GRS 3

Ofc they are for my german version but i guess you can figure your english shorts for them^^

[KageTokage]

I do hope reliance on procs isn't going to push more people to start using bots to craft because those can react to procs triggering unlike a macro.

I think the only thing that could put a damper on them is needing actual planning for crafts and not just having one optimal path based on a proc happening or not.

[Bellsong]

If RNG must be the answer I seriously hope it's a light RNG, as in always having a path to victory if you know what you're doing instead of the game just giving you the middle finger because why not.

[CookiesNCreams]

If RNG must be the answer I seriously hope it's a light RNG, as in always having a path to victory if you know what you're doing instead of the game just giving you the middle finger because why not.

I’m fine with it either way honestly. Whether it’s hard rng, light rng, or skill....as long as endgame crafting has been improved into something players can be proud of doing, and is not a phone game where you’re guaranteed to always win, its a good thing. And you know what? This is how it should be.

Normal recipes/leveling recipes should be easier for newcoming crafters or casual crafters. Endgame should be serious territory, for competitive crafters or hardcore crafters. I’m really grateful for the FFXIV crafting team finally listening to vet crafters and giving them what they want instead of catering to only casual players this time.

For that, they have earned a lot of respect.