crafting is gone

[Maeka]

new ones, even the patch 5.1 items are 100% always.

That is obviously unintended behavior and I hope people aren't exploiting it and grabbing whole stockpiles of the stuff.

It sounds like they wanted to buff old items, and somehow accidentally dropped a blanket buff on ALL of them, new ones included.

[CookiesNCreams]

new ones, even the patch 5.1 items are 100% always.

Well, two options are likely to happen:

1. In the interview with Yoshida/Dengeki, when he mentioned how endgame recipes will require procs to complete, he meant it will be added to all endgame recipes once 5.2 starts.

2. Or, he meant that Ishgard Restoration will have super difficult hardcore recipes, which, will not happen until 5.2. Thing is, if this is the case, the rewards given to these hardcore players must be pretty sweet. Like high stat gear/tools (or some lewd glam. cuz let’s be real, nobody will do it if it’s not that at least lol).

So, it’s up to us to figure out which one is more likely to happen.

[Saintly]

Good job listening to casual crybabies SE, but its still its too hard, why don't you just make it even easier?
Like, have the mats in inventory > press craft > get HQ item.

On a serious note tho, i wonder if HC omnicrafting/MB control is gonna worth the effort anymore, since everyone and his mother gonna craft and sell everything except the cream of the crop recipes.

[CookiesNCreams]

Good job listening to casual crybabies SE, but its still its too hard, why don't you just make it even easier?
Like, have the mats in inventory > press craft > get HQ item.

On a serious note tho, i wonder if HC omnicrafting/MB control is gonna worth the effort anymore, since everyone and his mother gonna craft and sell everything except the cream of the crop recipes.

Square Enix catering to casual crafters is a good thing, because it encourages them to try crafting. I mean, yes, they’ve nerfed crafting overall, and hardcore players dislike that. But, they can easily please hardcore players by giving them hardcore content they desire. Like I said previously, Yoshida will either nerf endgame recipes to be more difficult in 5.2. Or, he will only make Ishgard restoration ranking recipes difficult, but in return, making the rewards a “must have”.

[Orbus]

I care little for crafting being "hardcore", if I want that savage content exists and gives better gear than what can be crafted anyway.
Crafting had too many barriers to entry anyway, something that only benefits the people already at the top.
Of course THOSE people hate any change to it for ease of access.

[CookiesNCreams]

I care little for crafting being "hardcore", if I want that savage content exists and gives better gear than what can be crafted anyway.
Crafting had too many barriers to entry anyway, something that only benefits the people already at the top.
Of course THOSE people hate any change to it for ease of access.

So long as hardcore players get some sweet content too, I would say it’ll all be balanced out. Rather than one audience getting everything.

[RyuSaarva]

I care little for crafting being "hardcore", if I want that savage content exists and gives better gear than what can be crafted anyway.
Crafting had too many barriers to entry anyway, something that only benefits the people already at the top.
Of course THOSE people hate any change to it for ease of access.

what barriers?
you open the map and search where the guild is and then you walk inside, low level mats are sold inside the guild so you can get a feel to crafting.

[Gula]

I care little for crafting being "hardcore", if I want that savage content exists and gives better gear than what can be crafted anyway.
Crafting had too many barriers to entry anyway, something that only benefits the people already at the top.
Of course THOSE people hate any change to it for ease of access.

Me before the patch: Drake turning away
Me after the patch: Drake approves

I'm happy I can deliver to my dear Kai Shirr and try my hand at things that came off as rocket science before.

[rosythorns4]

Crazy thing is, you didn't do it then, you're most likely not going to do it now, so quit throwing up straw men. What has been done to crafting, for lower levels, is a massive addition of training wheels, while higher end crafting is absolutely terrible as a result. What was possible to finish before for lower stats, is near impossible to even hq without full hq mats now. But yeah, continually stating you didn't have the motivation before to do something so simple is going to prove how you have the drive to do it now... so sure, yeah, Kai-Shirr is the difference, and not Zhloe, not M'naago, not Kurenai, or even Adkiragh, not the tremendously easy Ixal questline, or the even easier Moogle or Namazu options.

Funniest part is, pre 50, nothing's honestly changed, aside from a loss of steady hand, piece by piece, and comfort zone, so enjoy having less usable cp, longer crafts, with less quality increase success and efficiency, I guess? You really showed the omnicrafters...

[hydralus]

while higher end crafting is absolutely terrible as a result. What was possible to finish before for lower stats, is near impossible to even hq without full hq mats now.

I'm pretty sure I'm not running an efficient macro but I'm able to do the new facet gear with 3/8 materials being HQ with 2284 craft/2050 control and 541 CP + blood bouillabaisse in 21 steps. As I and other crafters get geared up to the next level, it'll be even cheaper/easier.

Hell at least it's not like some of those Heavensward macros with 45+ steps.