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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendalwind View Post
    But that's the thing. You are saying Ranged difficulty comes from "not mess up their rotation even if the ground breaks and the depths of hell break"
    But melee rotations are just as hard, if not even harder in the case of classes like NIN. so its not fair to use that as the defining metric. And SMN also has a far more difficult time with their GCDs and rotations than ANY bard. The only difficulty commonly innate to ranged is dealing with random procs altering their rotation (DNC feathers for example) but that is by far in large still easier to deal with than having to perfect double weave with 4 button pushes as NIN between a single gcd in and out.

    My point here. Ranged DO NOT have difficult rotations. And if you want to talk CPM then ranged still aren't the highes with NIN and SMN out in front right now in that regard. And if we want to talk burst CPM than NIN far outdoes the other two in their burst moments, while having to also regard mechanics and stay in melee range. CPM is not a good measure of difficulty. My NIN CPM in Leviathin, A fight with downtime, averages at 48 CPM. 50 on voidwalker.
    50. (given I run a slightly higher SkS than balance recommends cause i have a speedy NIN fantasy, but not my much because SkS really does screw a NIN over atm)

    And still Im having trouble just moving on from your statement. " ranged need to maintain focus and not mess up their rotation even if the ground breaks and the depths of hell break open as Satan's army begins its attack on the mortal plane."
    there is so much hyperbole there and the fact is ranged rotations are not somehow magically harder than other role rotations.
    Please point out where I said ranged rotations are harder than other role rotations.

    I wasn't claiming that, I was saying that every role has its difficulties and that difficulty is subjective. To me summoner is easy but just tedious, but to other people summoner is hard as hell to play.

    I really don't care for when people want to balance job damage around difficulty considering that black mage has the easiest rotation and the second best movement out of all casters, with red mage being the worst mobility, yet is the best dps in the game, and red mage, the job with the second easiest rotation is second lowest in rdps.

    And yes, I know ninja is the highest cpm, but we're not talking about ninja, but good job bringing up your job and your higher cpm as if you're trying to prove something to the strawman you created while simultaneously putting down ranged players by saying their job is easy.
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    Last edited by Dogempire; 09-20-2019 at 06:09 AM.

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