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    Vendal Solairune
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Not really, all dps roles have skillsets a person needs to have to be able to optimize a class, casters have to know how to slidecast and pre-position for mechanics and maintain as much uptime as possible, melee need to know how to be greedy and when to disengage/hit positionals or ignore positionals to keep the gcd rolling, and ranged need to maintain focus and not mess up their rotation even if the ground breaks and the depths of hell break open as Satan's army begins its attack on the mortal plane.

    At the moment the average machinist has an CPM of 45.1, Bard has a CPM of 43.5, and DNC has a CPM of 38.4, the 2nd, 3rd, and 7th highest CPM classes respectively. Ranged has some of the busiest rotations, and despite being constantly busy you're expected to bait certain mechanics so melee don't have to do them and can keep their precious uptime.

    That is to say, melee, casters, and ranged all have different playstyles, they each have their own respective difficulties and people who think ranged is easy probably haven't played it enough.
    But that's the thing. You are saying Ranged difficulty comes from "not mess up their rotation even if the ground breaks and the depths of hell break"
    But melee rotations are just as hard, if not even harder in the case of classes like NIN. so its not fair to use that as the defining metric. And SMN also has a far more difficult time with their GCDs and rotations than ANY bard. The only difficulty commonly innate to ranged is dealing with random procs altering their rotation (DNC feathers for example) but that is by far in large still easier to deal with than having to perfect double weave with 4 button pushes as NIN between a single gcd in and out.

    My point here. Ranged DO NOT have difficult rotations. And if you want to talk CPM then ranged still aren't the highes with NIN and SMN out in front right now in that regard. And if we want to talk burst CPM than NIN far outdoes the other two in their burst moments, while having to also regard mechanics and stay in melee range. CPM is not a good measure of difficulty. My NIN CPM in Leviathin, A fight with downtime, averages at 48 CPM. 50 on voidwalker.
    50. (given I run a slightly higher SkS than balance recommends cause i have a speedy NIN fantasy, but not my much because SkS really does screw a NIN over atm)

    And still Im having trouble just moving on from your statement. " ranged need to maintain focus and not mess up their rotation even if the ground breaks and the depths of hell break open as Satan's army begins its attack on the mortal plane."
    there is so much hyperbole there and the fact is ranged rotations are not somehow magically harder than other role rotations.
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    Last edited by Vendalwind; 09-20-2019 at 04:46 AM.

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