Have we given up on SCH?

[DenzelVilliers]

Who the hell is Momo?, i see that everytime someone says anything about Healers that they disagree, that person is considered a "Momo disciple" or something like that, i never heard about Momo in my life, it'sa Streamer?, a Youtuber?, the only one i know is Mizteqq for some Guides.

Anyway...

Also people keep complaining about Seraph... Am I the only one that consider it a pretty strong healing move?

Seraph is by far the best Healer Lv80 skill while WHM's Temperance is the worst, really, especially in Dungeons i never use Temperance at all because isn't necessary. Temperance +5% Damage Potency would be a lot better and usefull than +10% Damage Reduction.

I don't see any reason to complain about Seraph when you have Temperance and Neutral Sect in other hand, like i said, in general SCH is already in a perfect spot and people are mostly asking for old skill to come back and more buttons to smash and claming that as a "issue", because "the job is boring to play" instead a real issue in their skills, SCH real issues has already been fixed like spaming heals to build Fairy Gauge and huge MP amout for Arts of War, while WHM and AST are the ones at this moment who really need some fix, but 90% of time someone ask for a WHM fix people say, for example: "Did Momo said that?", "WHM is OP needs a nerf", "WHM has nothing wrong with it" and etc.

Every single day there's at least a new thread about SCH, if people want Shadow, Bane and etc back, create a Thread including all Healers, asking fot Aero III as well, a new AST AoE DoT that never had as well, because they deserves it too. A 4th Healer is never going to see the daylight while people ask for unbalanced stuff, and i want a 4th healer.

[Saefinn]

I don't see any reason to complain about Seraph when you have Temperance and Neutral Sect in other hand, like i said, in general SCH is already in a perfect spot and people are mostly asking for old skill to come back and more buttons to smash and claming that as a "issue", because "the job is boring to play" instead a real issue in their skills, SCH real issues has already been fixed like spaming heals to build Fairy Gauge and huge MP amout for Arts of War, while WHM and AST are the ones at this moment who really need some fix, but 90% of time someone ask for a WHM fix people say, for example: "Did Momo said that?", "WHM is OP needs a nerf", "WHM has nothing wrong with it" and etc.

Every single day there's at least a new thread about SCH, if people want Shadow, Bane and etc back, create a Thread including all Healers, asking fot Aero III as well, a new AST AoE DoT that never had as well, because they deserves it too.

I mean "it's boring" is a real issue if you're wanting to enjoy what you're playing.

I mean SCH is in a good place in that it works well and is efficient and heals well and DPS's well. But that's meaningless if the job is no longer enjoyable to play. Just as people saying "there's nothing wrong with WHM" your saying "SCH is in a good place" is not wholly fair. Versus AST pre 5.05 then yes SCH and WHM were ahead of AST and well balanced in that respect, but there are valid complaints all round, even after AST got a boost and SCH got Energy Drain back. But I think those who focus on the numbers or how useful they are, they are kinda missing the point, the crux of complaints is not "balance", it was a little more so for AST but they've made steps to try and fix that already.

I think all healers are in a position where they feel dumbed down and less interesting to play for a good deal of people. If it were an issue of skill, I think my complaints of healer downtime would be less valid.

With regards to representing all, people will generally talk about fixes for the job that they play simply because it's the job they play. Whilst I wholeheartedly agree WHM and AST need their love, I don't presume to know best for their job. I figure those who play it know better than me.

With all that said, many threads HAVE been inclusive of other healers and some have been focused on specific healers. But in terms of putting in your own two cents, I think it makes more sense for WHM's to represent WHM's, AST's to represent AST's and SCH's to represent SCH's, because who am I to say how WHM's should be fixed when I rarely play it?

This thread I believed was only created because at the moment it seems SCH's have quietened down. We also have threads about why there's not so many WHM posts. But all it boils down to is the number of people who play those jobs coming to the forums to complain about them, which is a given.