Have we given up on SCH?

[Hatstand]

Angry healers have been a long-time thing, have you gotten your "Angry Healers" monthly? To answer your OP, no, I'm still championing for SCH changes though that sort of evolved because I want to have 1. A healer with almost unlimited potential and fights that makes me have to think of how to utilize it all. 2. Fights that require a lot of movement 3. Make all the non-end game content be about the content not the carrot daily reward at the end with random dangerous patrols and chest with random loot and xp.

It has been disheartning to go now two months and neither gotten a concern raised at LLP or even a community manager just popping in going "Hey, how are you enjoying healers?" or "We are not planing any changes right now." The silence is deafing. I am still reminded of how gutted SCH is every time I log in to do stuff with the FC, which is great for taking the mind of, and now even some new players picking up sch are complaining about having nothing to do bu Ruin spam.

It started with Stormblood and I'm still in favor of getting 3.0 Scholar back. I'm more than happy to see Recitation, Catalyze, Fey Blessing, Excog, Fey Union go in return for the versatility of the slow dots, slow/heavy/virus debuffs, pet hotbar with own gcd, Selene. List just keeps on growing. If it is hard to balance around the finely tuned raid fights the current skillset could be a seperate system like PvP they tweak by the numbers.

The only reason I think there would be problems with that is that people would get no practice at their job outside raids, which could be pretty rough. It'd be better if they had some sort of toggle outside raids. Heck, it would be a wonderful function if you could play any version (2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0) of a job outside raids, with just a switch of a toggle. Then you just make it against the code of conduct to bully people for not having the best version in non-endgame content (which would be the only content where you could use it anyway). I'm sure there would be some people who would rage about "not being able to discourage people from being dead weight by playing the wrong spec", but people who'd do that in non-endgame content are toxic anyway, and I have no problem with censoring toxicity.

However, I realise something like this would never happen

[Squigley]

I already gave up SCH once but our raid team needed a healer and I was the only non-WHM capable healer in our FC. So I was semi-forced to go back to SCH.

From the top of my head there are two major issues with SCH:

1.) Ghosting abilities. It really bugs me especially in savage content when the fairy skills go on cooldown but there's no effect.
2.) Working to optimize healing so that we do practically nothing. I remember a time when good healing meant that I could on my "spare time" keep up 3-4 dots. Now it's all about mashing that one filler spell button.

I think 1.) can be fixed but based on SE's track record I have no hope that 2.) will ever change. So maybe I've given up twice?

[Loki]

I have already said several times what i wanted to express about sch on fr/us/jap forums with sometimes some ideas.

They gave us back one skill so they haven't ignored us totally but it's not enough. I'm tired to "fight" with devs after each gameplay updates cause it looks like they don't play certain jobs and they "adjust" it for no reasons and let those jobs "broken". The fairy AI has been changed for example and its behaviour too, i have never seen this kind of request on any forums and they justify this kind of decision by saying the majority asked it.....? really?

I just hope they are working on healers seriously but say nothing about it cause it's like a "shame" for them to have disapointed so much people with it. If at 5.1 nothing changes, i'll maybe yell again or just quit idk but it's just borring.

[Brandedblade]

Honestly, I think with ED reintroduced to the toolkit that the main issue with the class's gameplay loop is resolved, at this point what needs to be adjusted is the pet reactivity.

[Saefinn]

I've already given my two cents plenty of times and given it a chance and am already sticking to another job until SE at least say something. Because I don't know how much they're looking at. Nor do I know when issues will be addressed, so I figure I enjoy the game instead.

But all in all, I like the heal toolkit, just I don't find myself needing to take advantage of it a lot of the time and in downtime I'm bored.

They address this then I'm cool. It doesn't have to be exactly as I want it.

My problems with Scholar have never been that it's powerful, heck I'd be happier if it was less powerful because then I have to use my heal toolkit more efficiently.

[DenzelVilliers]

I think healers are what they are now, and i already dealt with it. There's going to have some changes?, of course it is, but i think there's no come back for AoE DoTs like it was before as people are asking for, and if that happens someday SCH isn't the only one who deserves it back, so a thread about all healers should be made not only one. SCH at this moment are the best Healers and have a decent DPS, they got Energy Drain back, Art of War MP requiriment is the same than Holy/Gravity now, their Lv80 skill are the best one imo as well, their Healing CDs are the best by far, they are in a perfect position. In my opnion WHM and AST has more stuff to fix than SCH right now.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Omg stop crying.
These forums are just people asking for changes

[Hatstand]

Omg stop crying.
These forums are just people asking for changes

Because a lot of people want changes. If you want to use these forums for something else, go for it.

[Elladie]

Having fun with my SCH. No issues. As long as a job does what it's supposed to - in this case, keep my party alive - and it's engaging to play, I won't have issues with it.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Because a lot of people want changes. If you want to use these forums for something else, go for it.

Is a healer.
You can heal savage.
You can heal dungeons.
You can heal msq.
You can even do dps on all of that content.

Whats wrong?