About the new items on mog station

[Nyvara]

Exclusive items are bad, they create threads like this. then the forums get wet with tears and melting snowflakes.

Really you had the items for years that you paid for now you're angry that more people can pay for them too?

Items you got for rewards well again you had them for years and how many are really still activity using them and bragging about it?

[worldofneil]

I seriously just don't get this argument. You get a chance to watch the Fanfest stream, two days of events for the game going over the upcoming expansion, diving into panels, a PLL live, cosplay contests, the friggin Piano/Primals concerts streamed(which they don't do anymore and I'd kill to see it), and AS A BONUS get these items included with your pass.

Yes you do. But SE didn't focus on that in their advertising above. They only said about the outfits/minions. There's no mention of everything else you get, they literally only focused on telling us it was our last chance to get these items (and to hand over our money before the deadline).

Also keep in mind those items are attached to your account forever, while anyone who purchases the glam fromthe mogstation can't reclaim it from Calamity Salvager unlike those who purchased the stream pass. So if you goof up and throw it out, you can only reclaim it once through the item restore and after that you're paying for it again.

I'm afraid that's not actually correct. FanFest people (both in person and people buying the stream) got tokens to trade in for the outfit of their choice. You can't repurchase the outfit if you don't have the tokens (they don't sell it for Gil like other items). It was also why you had to buy two different Fanfest streams to get enough tokens to get both outfits.

I'm also speaking as a guy who went to Fanfest last year, got the Fenrir Bike/Tifa minion with the full knowledge these items would be made available for purchase later on.

Yes, but I don't really understand the point you're trying to make. SE told at the point they announced those FanFests that the items would be available on the Mogstation. However what I posted above stated that the items only came from purchasing the FanFest stream and it was your last chance to get them so you had to buy them now.

Don't act as if having spent 30$ or so 2 years ago is what's making you angry. You just don't want every pleb owning and showing off the exclusive stuff you have, period :P

I'm annoyed that I had to pay £90 for 3 minions that I've never even used because I collect the silly things and SE said that was the only way I could get them. I'd much rather have paid £15 later, if we had known this was an option, but at the time SE had assured us it was not.

Really you had the items for years that you paid for now you're angry that more people can pay for them too?

Why is everyone focusing on that rather than the point I'm trying to make. We were quite clearly told one thing by SE that turned out not actually to be true.

How can we believe anything from SE going forward?

[Noitems]

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Notice how it says BONUS items? The idea is that you already know you're purchasing a ticket to the stream, and that they're giving you these a bonus. If they advertised it in the reverse order Glam/Minions -> Stream pass I'd understand your point. Also note that they don't say anything on the lines of "They'll be gone for good!" or anything on those lines. You're just putting words into their mouth to make it seem like they would never be obtained by anyone ever again. The moment the moogle outfit came to the mogstation or hell when those tidus/yuna costumes hit the Mogstation a month or so ago you should know that there was no one off for them.

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Okay so even if you couldn't purchase them from the salvager and lets give the example that someone bought all three streams to get all of the minions . You'd have enough for three sets all together. Three sets of items that can be stored in an armoire forever, that give you explicit notice the item cannot be reobtained if you discard them. On top of the one time recovery you might as well have them on your person forever at that rate since the steps someone would go to delete them would be pretty steep.

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Would you be able to point out to me where does it say you can ONLY get them through this promotion? I can clearly see it says last chance to get these bonus items but does it say but where does it say the word "Only"? Yeah it's the last time you can get them with purchasing the stream as a bonus but it doesn't say anything about them only being obtainable through this event.

The point I was trying to make is if I wanted to focus on just the minions/glam (which seems to be your main point) I could have absolutely just stayed home and purchased them as they came on the mogstation. Instead I used my ticket to take advantage of everything it had to offer as the mount/minion are just part of it. You didn't seem to talk about everything else that came with your pass, all of the benefits you got for purchasing it and instead harped over the bonus item you got because you assumed it would only be obtainable through the pass. You didn't purchase the "FFX Glamour/Minions + Bonus Fanfest Stream" promotion you purchased the "Fanfest Stream + Bonus Glamour/Minions" promotion. You're selling yourself short mate if you believe the glamour/minions legit make up the high price.

[worldofneil]

they don't say anything on the lines of "They'll be gone for good!" or anything on those lines. You're just putting words into their mouth to make it seem like they would never be obtained by anyone ever again.

Would you be able to point out to me where does it say you can ONLY get them through this promotion? I can clearly see it says last chance to get these bonus items but does it say but where does it say the word "Only"?

Sorry, but... what?

It literally says "last chance". Not once, but TWICE. It even says "Don't miss out" and "make sure to get all three if you want to complete your minion collection". They've also thrown in "exclusive to each region".

I don't really see how that can be possibly understood as anything else except that this is your LAST CHANCE to get these items. There's no conditions added to it to like "Last chance... until we add to the Mogstation".

I mean no disrespect with this question, but is English not your main language by chance?

Okay so even if you couldn't purchase them from the salvager and lets give the example that someone bought all three streams to get all of the minions . You'd have enough for three sets all together. Three sets of items that can be stored in an armoire forever, that give you explicit notice the item cannot be reobtained if you discard them. On top of the one time recovery you might as well have them on your person forever at that rate since the steps someone would go to delete them would be pretty steep.

I don't know what point you're trying to make here. If you discard either outfit (Fanfest or Mogstation), you cannot get it back without using your recovery or purchasing it again from the Mogstation. So there's literally no difference to either, once purchased if you discard there is no feature in the game to get them back.

The point I was trying to make is if I wanted to focus on just the minions/glam (which seems to be your main point) I could have absolutely just stayed home and purchased them as they came on the mogstation.

Well we could have, if we had been told this two years ago. But we weren't.

You didn't seem to talk about everything else that came with your pass, all of the benefits you got for purchasing it

Because SE don't either. See the advert they sent out. It doesn't even mention that you won't be able to view the streams past the expiry date, it literally only mentions the outfits and minions.

You're selling yourself short mate if you believe the glamour/minions legit make up the high price.

I don't think the price was worth it, but SE knows that there are collectors so they add minions (and orchestrion rolls) to items because they know they can then get a sale just based on that item.

Also personal request, if you're going to quote me, please actually quote me. Putting "snip" in defeats the point of a quote as I have no idea what you're referring to without having to scroll up and down.

[Noitems]

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Breaking into snippets helps reduce the word count. I'm doing it by each of your paragraphs in order as to not go over the word count.

You question my English yet I'm asking you specifically if you see the word "Only" in this ad or any phrasing that says the items will no longer be available past the promotion. I haven't gotten an actual reply to either and that is a key point . Only means that it will ONLY be through this advertisement and no longer available is pretty obvious. The "Last Chance!" you're focusing on is implied to be part of the bundle promotion as a packaged deal. I see the exclusive minion text but I still don't happen to see anything talking about how the items will never be obtainable past this promotion. It's your own fault for assuming it was just that. Unless stated outright never put your bets down, always keep your mind open to if it may come back in some way shape or form especially when the game has the mogstation.

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The point I'm making about this is that with so many notifications you would have to intentionally ignore them all to delete them all. Any sane person would stop if knowing the items are non recoverable or at least factor in the one time recovery into their initial statement if they needed to delete them for whatever reason. But since they can be stored in the armoire space would never be an issue.

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That's because it's a last call for the deal directing you to the website generally sent through email. It's under the assumption you know what's going on and even if you didn't you'd find out about it pretty easily, especially with a price that high. You don't jump the gun into something like that especially with that price point without knowing what you're getting. It would be nice if they explained more on the advert but that is what the directing to the main site is.

Listen if you're going to complain about spending a combined equivalent of $90 for all three streams simply for the collection sake of two outfits and three minions and then completely ignore the three live stream events you get with all those features you are undermining your purchase. Doesn't matter if you view the streams as not worth it, they're a part of your price and are a BIG part of that price. Actively ignoring them as a whole is weakening your argument and giving people this misrepresentation of what they're really paying for.

Honestly you trying to argue my points is honestly just depressing to me especially on the live stream stuff. The majority of video uploads of those streams are taken off Youtube constantly due to SE copyright claiming, and those Primals concerts can't be viewed at all without purchasing the blu-ray osts (if said songs are even put in them) which don't have the same impact as those streams. The minions/glam can thankfully be experienced due to the mogstation but some of those moments with the devs, Yoshi-p, Soken, Koji, and everyone from that Fanfest can't. Downplaying that part of the purchase just irks me, especially if you're the type of person willing to shell out that much money on in game items.

[worldofneil]

Breaking into snippets helps reduce the word count.

Why even write snip at all then? The whole point of the quotation system is to quote someone. I have no idea what you're referring to, so I'm sorry, but I didn't read your reply (other than the first line obviously...).

[Noitems]

Why even write snip at all then? The whole point of the quotation system is to quote someone. I have no idea what you're referring to, so I'm sorry, but I didn't read your reply (other than the first line obviously...).

Because otherwise the post would literally just be an aimless post trying to argue your points with zero context. The snip is to relay what paragraph I'm relating to. If you click on the quote as well it'll bring you back to your post and it's just piecing the two together, doesn't take long.

With over 2,000 posts on this forum you should at least have knowledge that there is a word count per post. :P

[RoyalBeef]

I'm annoyed that I had to pay £90 for 3 minions that I've never even used because I collect the silly things and SE said that was the only way I could get them. I'd much rather have paid £15 later, if we had known this was an option, but at the time SE had assured us it was not.

You didn't have to, it was your choice. And you paid for the Streams fron what I can tell, the minions were just a bonus giveaway. it's not like you purchase some limited collectors item with an imprinted number that would eventually become super expensive and sought after, but then they decided to just flood the market with it or anything like it.