About the new items on mog station

[Vidu]

I have higher sentimental value for things that I know are unique or no longer available to be purchased or obtained because that makes the items "special" for several reasons not worth bringing up - but for everything, not just virtual items in a videogame. I'm 100% fine with other players having the items, if anything I enjoy seeing players with exclusive items that I either do or don't have. Whenever I'd see someone else with something exclusive I like jumping around on the same mount or in the same glam and making a new friend. If everyone has it than there's no memory to connect with another players.

"Oh you've got the Abe's Attire, I remember in HW when --"
"Sorry I didn't play HW I just like the glam lol"

While I may be able to continue that dialogue over something FFX-related, I'd rather be talking about XIV since that's the game I'm playing.

Edit: My issue is mainly with the exclusivity and not the sentimental value. Taking it away removes a reason why I would engage with another player with any exclusive item because for all I know they just bought it off the Mogshop, they don't have the memories that the original purchases have from when they did get it. Memories of watching the stream, playing through HW, looking forward to maybe getting something Blitzball related etc. are being mixed with memories of "yeah I just picked it up on the Mogshop for leveling alt jobs".

See, I mainly feel sorry if I have to tell someone "You cant get this anymore" when they approach me about an item like that, because I see no reason why they shouldnt still be able to get it.

Sorry if an item losing its exclusivity makes you lose your memory and/or talking points, but considering that there should be quite enough talking points if you wish to engage people I really dont see the harm in letting people have those items aswell.

Personally I'm rather emphatic towards new people than felling "special" for paying money for something (and I actually went to the fanfest and got the items from spending an awesome week in Frankfurt with all the amazing I met in the game)

[Melorie]

Edit: My issue is mainly with the exclusivity and not the sentimental value. Taking it away removes a reason why I would engage with another player with any exclusive item because for all I know they just bought it off the Mogshop, they don't have the memories that the original purchases have from when they did get it. Memories of watching the stream, playing through HW, looking forward to maybe getting something Blitzball related etc. are being mixed with memories of "yeah I just picked it up on the Mogshop for leveling alt jobs".

You're looking at it with such a rose-colored glasses. There are a bunch of people that just bought the ticket because they find the outfit cool and did not even care about the livestream. Just because someone has the outfit doesn't mean they have a nice history behind it. You can, however, meet a new player that bought the outfit from mogstation and wears it all the time because FFX marked their life and they just love it a lot, etc. People that buy it from the mogstation can also have memories attached to it in some way. They can also care about that item in a special way - that's probably because they're wearing it, btw.

I mean if it is a rare item then yes I bet people probably have a nice story behind it. Like how much time they spent trying to beat UCoB to get the weapon, etc. But you're talking about an item that you just have to use your credit card to get it. It's not as special as you're painting.

[Roda]

You could just.. you know.. talk about your shared interest in the thing the costume is actually based on?
Also like, you could just.. search their character to see what level they are if you want to talk about heavensward...
Do my ala mhigan earrings mean I didn't skip any of the HW/ARR cutscenes?

This connection makes my head hurt. :T

[Avidria]

You're looking at it with such a rose-colored glasses. There are a bunch of people that just bought the ticket because they find the outfit cool and did not even care about the livestream. Just because someone has the outfit doesn't mean they have a nice history behind it. You can, however, meet a new player that bought the outfit from mogstation and wears it all the time because FFX marked their life and they just love it a lot, etc. People that buy it from the mogstation can also have memories attached to it in some way. They can also care about that item in a special way - that's probably because they're wearing it, btw.

I mean if it is a rare item then yes I bet people probably have a nice story behind it. Like how much time they spent trying to beat UCoB to get the weapon, etc. But you're talking about an item that you just have to use your credit card to get it. It's not as special as you're painting.

I will say that people valuing exclusivity and rarity is absolutely not new or surprising either, regardless of how the thing was obtained originally. Rare collector's items sell - and the rarest things are expensive for a reason. That's just something that some people find important or even just enjoy, each for their own reasons.

In this case, though, the question should be whether the dress was advertised as exclusive or not. If it was, then this is probably kinda not cool, but it sounds like it might not have been, and like there was precedent for fanfest items getting put on mogstation anyway. In which case, this was never something that was intended to stay exclusive to begin with, and now it isn't - c'est la vie.

I like a shiny exclusive thing myself every now and then, but I'm also glad this is something I can buy now. I actually just saw it for the first time yesterday and thought it looked nice, and was disappointed when I learned it was from an event I'd missed. I'd been totally fine moving on, but now I have a chance to get it after all, so that's pretty neat I suppose.

[Vidu]

In this case, though, the question should be whether the dress was advertised as exclusive or not. If it was, then this is probably kinda not cool, but it sounds like it might not have been, and like there was precedent for fanfest items getting put on mogstation anyway. In which case, this was never something that was intended to stay exclusive to begin with, and now it isn't - c'est la vie.

I like a shiny exclusive thing myself every now and then, but I'm also glad this is something I can buy now. I actually just saw it for the first time yesterday and thought it looked nice, and was disappointed when I learned it was from an event I'd missed. I'd been totally fine moving on, but now I have a chance to get it after all, so that's pretty neat I suppose.

It honestly was advertised as "exclusive" and they were pushing stream-sells at the end by pointing that out - so thats quite a bit of shady advertising there and I understand people being upset about it.
However the same was true for the moggle attire ("Its exclusive to tickets, real and stream") from a previous fanfest which ended up on the mogstation, so you could rightfully assume that the same would happen to these outfits.

Personally I'm happy with exclusive things being locked behind skill - not behind being in the right place at the right time with the right amount of money.

[worldofneil]

Those other minions need to follow the same trend as these though and hurry to the mogstation. XD

They won't (or at least shouldn't) add them to the Mogstation. When the minions were released we were told that they were exclusive to each region.

Adding to that, right before the expiry date (and this is months after the actual festivals/streams) SE sent an email to everyone to say that it was the "last chance" to get the "bonus items" (which in the same email is expanded further as meaning "minion bonus items".

So for players to get the 3 minions SE made them buy the 3 streams saying that it was their last chance to get them. Of course they can still go back on what they said...

[Avidria]

It honestly was advertised as "exclusive" and they were pushing stream-sells at the end by pointing that out - so thats quite a bit of shady advertising there and I understand people being upset about it.
However the same was true for the moggle attire ("Its exclusive to tickets, real and stream") from a previous fanfest which ended up on the mogstation, so you could rightfully assume that the same would happen to these outfits.

Personally I'm happy with exclusive things being locked behind skill - not behind being in the right place at the right time with the right amount of money.

Hmm, yeah, not a fan of going against something that was previously advertised for things like this. Policies and opinions and plans change all the time, of course, but if you sell something for real cash and slap a big "exclusive" sticker on it... then it should absolutely stay exclusive. So that's no bueno for both items imo.

I'm not a huge advocate for limited time exclusives, but I don't really have a problem with them either. It nets sales, so it makes sense why companies do it, and there's always gonna be a crowd that jumps on the chance for having something they know they (and/or others) won't be able to get later. Things like that will always be around as long as those things stay true. So imho, if things like this aren't gonna stay exclusive forever, that should be said up front, whether they cost a few hours' effort or a few extra cash dollars.

[Hindzo]

They won't (or at least shouldn't) add them to the Mogstation. When the minions were released we were told that they were exclusive to each region.

Adding to that, right before the expiry date (and this is months after the actual festivals/streams) SE sent an email to everyone to say that it was the "last chance" to get the "bonus items" (which in the same email is expanded further as meaning "minion bonus items".

So for players to get the 3 minions SE made them buy the 3 streams saying that it was their last chance to get them. Of course they can still go back on what they said...

I don't recall what the email said specifically but I do remember this picture.

"Last chance to obtain FINAL FANTASY X gear and minions"

Last chance. Gear AND minions. What a joke.

[AlphaFox]

I really don't see the issue. We paid for it, got to play with them for over 2 years alone and got it cheaper I believe? Don't recall the price, like 10/15 bucks or so for both the outfit and the minion plus streaming of an event. Makes sense for SE to throw them up on the Mogstation if people are still willing to pay for them, basically say "No thanks" to money.

[Lordfurious]

They were exclusive items for people who bought the stream of the previous fan festival no? When we had to pay to see it. So, those items should stay exclusive no? I feel it's a bit like if you put the minion Caith Sith available on the mog station... I mean, I can understand some people wants them and that you will make money out of it, but... why would you do that?

It's not like a past event item... What is exclusive should stay exclusive in my opinion, it's a way to show that we were there when it happened and that we bought some product outside of the game. Ok, it's maybe not like buying a soundtrack or book or other physical product, but it was still a reward from buying the live stream...

That is so funny thank you for the great laugh. I'm surprised you haven't figured it out by now Square Enix wants money more money. That should have been clearer when they added the laughable broken companion app. I would think that would have been noticeable when you go to the Mog Station and look at all of the different items available. I remember a few years ago when there was only one or two items in the Mog Station such as a vial of Fantasia maybe one or two mounts and a name Change option. Now I look at how much is in there and it is clear to me it is a giant cash grab for Square Enix. Personally I hope they stop doing this. But after all they are just copying what World of Warcraft did three years ago.