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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    What part of "make sure to get all three streams if you want to complete your minion collection" sounds like you would also be able to buy them later?
    What part of that says they wont?
    I get your mindset, but unless it clearly states "Will never happen" then you can't rule it out. Like Male Viera.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    I'm annoyed that I had to pay £90 for 3 minions that I've never even used because I collect the silly things and SE said that was the only way I could get them. I'd much rather have paid £15 later, if we had known this was an option, but at the time SE had assured us it was not.
    You didn't have to, it was your choice. And you paid for the Streams fron what I can tell, the minions were just a bonus giveaway. it's not like you purchase some limited collectors item with an imprinted number that would eventually become super expensive and sought after, but then they decided to just flood the market with it or anything like it.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Sorry, but where's the part of the AD that says "Last Chance to get those items as Bonus items from attending the streams". It just says last chance which is an absolute statement.
    Except you're ignoring context. When they say last chance, they're referring to last chance for the promotion itself. You can argue it's somewhat misleading but most companies aren't entirely upfront about everything.

    Regardless, why does it even matter? I have a ton of exclusive or formerly exclusive outfits, minions and emotes. I couldn't care less if they throw them up on the Mogstation. And yes, that even includes the Shiva or Odin emote. Why? Because I bought the statue for the statue not for an emote. I've also had it for over two years now. This isn't like Ultimate where skill is involved. I didn't "earn" these exclusive items. I typed my credit card info and waited for things to be delivered.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Except you're ignoring context. When they say last chance, they're referring to last chance for the promotion itself.


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  5. #185
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    People discovering that the advertising world sometimes use misleading words to make you buy things. When a store near you says that this is the last days to benefit from their awesome discounts, do you expect them to never do another discounts again ? Because otherwise it is not really the last days of it XD

    And this isn't even high at all as a selling technique. You wouldn't believe all the s*** i did hear the salespersons at my last work spouting so that they can meet their quotas.
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  6. #186
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    Even if I initially started this thread a while ago, I don't want to start the debate again.

    You don't want exclusive items, we get it SE, but please then, be consistant. Release the Legacy Tattoo, the Lagacy chocobo, the Caith sith minion, the mogs minions, the bahamut minion, the emotes from statues, and everything else already. We had those exclusive for 2 years, people had some of the things I just mentionned exclusive for 6 years, so, it's just about time you just put everything on sale.

    And on the "legacy player items", since I know some people feels that they should not become available... They also should, honnestly, even with or without those players, SE wanted a MMORPG to earn some easy money, and they would have made one even if 1.0 was bad. And it's not a bad game that will make the company bankrupt or being unable to release a new title. They gave them some bonus for over 6 years. They also put their name in the ending generic, our names will never be there. Just that is a big thank you. But, someone who play since ARR have made more to SE and XIV than any Legacy players made during the 1.0, 6 years of subscription is not nothing, + buying the expansions and every other bonus items from the Mog station or previous deal.

    So please SE, just be consistant already and release everything, or else what you are doing right now is really stupid.
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    Last edited by AlliciaCapulet; 08-28-2019 at 06:40 PM.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Snip
    Breaking into snippets helps reduce the word count. I'm doing it by each of your paragraphs in order as to not go over the word count.

    You question my English yet I'm asking you specifically if you see the word "Only" in this ad or any phrasing that says the items will no longer be available past the promotion. I haven't gotten an actual reply to either and that is a key point . Only means that it will ONLY be through this advertisement and no longer available is pretty obvious. The "Last Chance!" you're focusing on is implied to be part of the bundle promotion as a packaged deal. I see the exclusive minion text but I still don't happen to see anything talking about how the items will never be obtainable past this promotion. It's your own fault for assuming it was just that. Unless stated outright never put your bets down, always keep your mind open to if it may come back in some way shape or form especially when the game has the mogstation.
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
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    The point I'm making about this is that with so many notifications you would have to intentionally ignore them all to delete them all. Any sane person would stop if knowing the items are non recoverable or at least factor in the one time recovery into their initial statement if they needed to delete them for whatever reason. But since they can be stored in the armoire space would never be an issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
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    That's because it's a last call for the deal directing you to the website generally sent through email. It's under the assumption you know what's going on and even if you didn't you'd find out about it pretty easily, especially with a price that high. You don't jump the gun into something like that especially with that price point without knowing what you're getting. It would be nice if they explained more on the advert but that is what the directing to the main site is.

    Listen if you're going to complain about spending a combined equivalent of $90 for all three streams simply for the collection sake of two outfits and three minions and then completely ignore the three live stream events you get with all those features you are undermining your purchase. Doesn't matter if you view the streams as not worth it, they're a part of your price and are a BIG part of that price. Actively ignoring them as a whole is weakening your argument and giving people this misrepresentation of what they're really paying for.

    Honestly you trying to argue my points is honestly just depressing to me especially on the live stream stuff. The majority of video uploads of those streams are taken off Youtube constantly due to SE copyright claiming, and those Primals concerts can't be viewed at all without purchasing the blu-ray osts (if said songs are even put in them) which don't have the same impact as those streams. The minions/glam can thankfully be experienced due to the mogstation but some of those moments with the devs, Yoshi-p, Soken, Koji, and everyone from that Fanfest can't. Downplaying that part of the purchase just irks me, especially if you're the type of person willing to shell out that much money on in game items.
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    Last edited by Noitems; 08-28-2019 at 11:28 PM.

  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Breaking into snippets helps reduce the word count.
    Why even write snip at all then? The whole point of the quotation system is to quote someone. I have no idea what you're referring to, so I'm sorry, but I didn't read your reply (other than the first line obviously...).
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Why even write snip at all then? The whole point of the quotation system is to quote someone. I have no idea what you're referring to, so I'm sorry, but I didn't read your reply (other than the first line obviously...).
    Because otherwise the post would literally just be an aimless post trying to argue your points with zero context. The snip is to relay what paragraph I'm relating to. If you click on the quote as well it'll bring you back to your post and it's just piecing the two together, doesn't take long.

    With over 2,000 posts on this forum you should at least have knowledge that there is a word count per post. :P
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  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    With over 2,000 posts on this forum you should at least have knowledge that there is a word count per post. :P
    Yes, but it's a soft limit. You just copy the post that's too long to your clipboard, save just the first part, hit edit, paste the entire post in and his save again.

    No idea why SE made it like that (or that they allow this workaround to work), but it's basically how everyone gets around the word limitation so you can write longer posts.
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