Lack of End Game Content

[linay]

"Exactly it … but let's change the bits I don't agree with" is just you making up your own definition. It doesn't fly. What you're doing is intentionally making the meaning more vague to insert your agenda. Your definition is wrong.

I think you're just being obtuse now. "the things included" - duty roulette is included in how to acquire tomestone.

The mechanics, by which you mean, the enemy's attacks are a part of the content, sure. The doing of the mechanics, as in the avoiding of the enemy's attacks, is an activity you perform and is not a part of the raid's contents. Doing the duty roulette is an activity, not part of the content.

Doing mechanic is not, but mechanic is. Doing duty roulette is not, but duty roulette is. You can see it when you see tomestone in the duty roulette page.

[Kaylessa]

I think you're just being obtuse now. "the things included" - duty roulette is included in how to acquire tomestone.

A roulette is a game which allows a number or item to be randomly selected. That's all it is, it doesn't include any of thedungeons. The content is the game that allows for the random selection of a dungeon. Doing the roulette is participating in this. It's an activity, not content.

Stop making up your own definitions. It's simple really.

[linay]

A roulette is a game which allows a number or item to be randomly selected. That's all it is, it doesn't include any of thedungeons. The content is the game that allows for the random selection of a dungeon. Doing the roulette is participating in this. It's an activity, not content.

Stop making up your own definitions. It's simple really.

Of course it includes the duties inside. It's a roulette of duties.

[Kaylessa]

Of course it includes the duties inside. It's a roulette of duties.

The 'duty' modifying roulette refers to what is randomly being chosen. The roulette is used to randomly choose. It does not include the duties inside.

EDIT: Wrong word

[linay]

The 'duty' modifying roulette refers to what is randomly being chosen. The roulette is used to randomly choose. It does not include the duties inside.

EDIT: Wrong word

They're not rewarding you for just choosing random things. They're rewarding you for being chosen to do random duty and then for doing that duty.

[Kaylessa]

They're not rewarding you for just choosing random things. They're rewarding you for being chosen to do random duty and then for doing that duty.

The activity they reward you for is doing the random dungeon selected, yes. We're getting off track.

The dungeons are content, the duty roulette is content. The duty roulette is content included to choose random dungeons. These are very real items or things that make up the game, stuff that is coded into the game. Everybody can experience this, it's part of the package.

Participating in a dungeon is not something coded into the game. It is not a part of the game available to everyone because your actions are your own, your actions are not included in the game, they don't come packaged in the game, it is not a part of the game's content.

An activity (by the very definition of the word), is the doing of a thing. Participating in a dungeon is a doing of a thing - you completed content. Participating in the duty roulette is the doing of a thing - you selected a random dungeon. All activities, all things you do.

Participating in the duty roulette to get end game rewards is something done only at max level and is an endgame activity, the dungeon chosen isn't important it's just to complete a dungeon. Run it and you will get your reward. The dungeon chosen, if Sastasha, is content not unlocked at max level and therefore not endgame content even though you're engaging in an endgame activity. You have run leveling content chosen by the duty roulette to get an endgame reward.

Simples.

[BlitzAceRush]

Several pages of levelling roulette .

Which still makes Sastasha an endgame activity in that moment as now it's been selected you need to run it and finish it to get a tomestone you can only get by being max level content.
You've gone back and forth with linay for like two pages over a technicality, you can spin it anyway but "Content that you have to be max level to do to get gear or items to progress your max level character" Under that, doing the levelling roulette counts as being as a max level character is the only way to trigger it to give you the right tomestone and to do the levelling roulette, you must complete the dungeon it selects for you, making the whole activity from selecting to doing the roulette, to being assigned a dungeon, to completing it is the endgame activity.

Another example of this is the ARR and HW relic, they both had you running out of date content for some of its steps but the relic, the activity you were doing it for is endgame content at it's time so once put into the relic steps that old content became endgame content until the relic itself was no longer relevant

linay isn't arguing that just running Sastasha in of itself is endgame content, but that any dungeon you get during the levelling roulette is endgame content during that roulette and shes right, plenty of games ask you to run non max level or out of date content as part of endgame for quests or other forms of progression.

If you have to complete it, to finish the endgame activity then it's part of the endgame for as long as the activity its a part of is considered endgame.

Also I'd like to point out that under this narrow view we're all still using, the currently Ultimate's, the most challenging content currently in the game still doesn't count as endgame, which I find laughable given the "I want challenging endgame!" Well, there it sits.