Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[AxlStream]

Horse crap.

There are a LOT of top tier players who don't touch Savage. They just aren't interested in it.

I ain't interested in your delusions either. Self proclaimed top tier players want to challenge themselves. Savage is a bare minimum for that pretending to be at that level.

[Shurrikhan]

Strictly speaking, yes, FFLogs is against the TOS.

Which is why, in game, if you talk about data from FFLogs you can be banned.

FFLogs is a 3rd party app which interprets data from FFXIV and is a violation of the ToS.

That something is against ToS does not mean that all information allowed for by the illegal activity are also against ToS. Nor does FFXIV have exclusive rights over information presented in its game sessions; else screenshots would also be against ToS if they so much as showed an activity against ToS, whether you were part of the guilty party or not.

I can't run someone over; I may, however, be required to read about vehicular trauma for HBS or forensics classes.

Talking about FFlogs will not get you banned. Talking about your actively parsing, be it to send to FFlogs or for any other reason, can.

Edit: And let's be clear. FFlogs is not a 3rd party app. It is "third-party", sure, but it is not an app; it cannot be executed on its own. It is a website, first and foremost, and the same name is used for a plugin for ACT which conveniences uploading to that website.

[Talinthis]

this should be on the playstation forums, not here.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

Today is the best time to buy PC a market ever had.
Decent CPUs, cheap GPUs, cheap memory, cheap ssd.
It is the cheapest since ever.

i have to disagree with you there. new technologies have rolled in and aren't fully developed upon yet. in fact, this is probably the worst time to build any enthusiast level high-end gaming machine. ( unless you have that kind of cash, and are certain of your enthusiasm ) you can consider the new RTX cards out from Nvidia basically a beta series of cards. ( they are actually just GTX 10-series cards, but revamped/upgraded. ) and then we are still waiting for Intel, if you buy Intel, to pick back up with AMD. ( Intel has been making a lot of great strides in terms of software, but we are still waiting for them to respond to AMD's latest releases. this always goes on between AMD and Intel, but both companies tend to always meet or exceed expectations. ) if anyone is looking to spend big bucks on a PC, i would totally hold off. as far as a budget/relatively high-end machine goes with a GTX 10-series? it is solid to go for that right now, but i wouldn't expect to age very gracefully.

[Kaethra]

Strictly speaking, yes, FFLogs is against the TOS.

Which is why, in game, if you talk about data from FFLogs you can be banned.

FFLogs is a 3rd party app which interprets data from FFXIV and is a violation of the ToS.

Then report everyone. Then we'll see who's right and who's wrong. Report everyone referencing FFLogs. If you don't, you're an accomplice.

You don't support 3rd party programs and the cheaters that do, do you?

[Dogempire]

All actual top tier healers do buddy. Sorry to burst your bubble

Unpopular opinion, but just because you don't do savage doesn't mean that can't be top tier at your job.

There are people out there who can easily be good raiders but don't bother because of the hoops associated with savage (Finding a group, setting a time aside, dying over and over to the same boss, etc.)

But that being said, healing is currently the easiest role in the game but gets a hell of a lot harder in savage content and you can't really get good at healing if all you do is just toss a regen on the tank and spam stone 99% of the time, so I suppose that's the exception to the rule.

[HWalsh]

Then report everyone. Then we'll see who's right and who's wrong. Report everyone referencing FFLogs. If you don't, you're an accomplice.

You don't support 3rd party programs and the cheaters that do, do you?

Mention FFLogs and that you're parsing someone's DPS in game and I *will* report it. Very quickly in fact. That's been explicitly against the ToS forever.

[HWalsh]

I ain't interested in your delusions either. Self proclaimed top tier players want to challenge themselves. Savage is a bare minimum for that pretending to be at that level.

It's not a delusion at all.

People play for different things. I don't raid, for example, though I don't consider myself a top-tier player in FF XIV. I *was* a top tier player back in DAoC though. I was a world first at getting the 2nd BM epic. I was part of one of only 4 groups that ever downed the Hibernian dragon *in the world.* I was one of the first, if not the first, to figure out the optimal BM build and brought a class from the lowest DPS to the highest DPS. I did parse (though we did it by hand back then) and played with stats and builds and specs and ran variables about reactionaries and positional. I was regularly ranked at number 1 in damage across all servers in PvP.

So am I top tier in FF XIV? Nope. My physical disability limits me a bit... But, in the game I played for years and years, raid after raid to be the first to get that epic, which required me to go through that raid over 100 times. Of which I played the least popular class but was ranked number 1 on the leader boards (again, once other people started cracking it the population numbers rose sharply) I absolutely was top tier.

And ya know what?

I stopped raiding after the 2nd expansion cane out. My heart wasn't in it anymore. It was too much effort, took too much time, and just wasn't fun.

Am I capable of being a top tier FF XIV player? Eh. With technology making up for my disability I have no doubt that I could. It really isn't hard. Build the muscle memory, get down your rotation, get an instinctive grasp on refresh times for your CD so you don't need to think about it, then pay attention to mechanics and don't stand in the fire.

After all, for the most part those skills transfer...

Oddly, in time I'm going to do that anyway. Heck I'm already pulling aggro off of other tanks most of the time in dungeons/trials. I've solo'ed and duo'ed bosses more than once at this point.

Eventually I'm going to get all that muscle memory down, heck I already am, but I'm not going to ever do savages.

Why?

I just don't want to. It's not worth it to me. It's not fun.

I'd rather spend my time RPing with friends, decorating a house, playing mahjong in the Gold Saucer.

That has no bearing on my skill as a player. It is just where my interests lie.

Where I take offense to the statement is that you're equating a player's skill level with a player's activity.

You can be the best martial artist in the world and never once step foot into a tournament.

You can be the best FF XIV player in the world and never touch a Savage.

That's the place I take issue with your statement.

[Kaethra]

You can be the best FF XIV player in the world and never touch a Savage.

I have to say, while this 'could' be possible. Its going to be highly unlikely. And here's why.

To be the best, you need to have the best effort in all three aspects of competitive online play. Those three aspects require the following:

What you know.
What you have.
Who you know.

What you know is what you all are arguing over right now. This measures what we commonly call 'player skill'. This all your experience, knowledge of fights, mechanics, stats, everything. This is what makes players in less gear able to excel over those with lesser gear. To an extent.

What you have is pretty simple. That's your character levels, gear, materia, everything stored on the game's database that you have access to. Quite simply to do the most challenging content, you need the gear to go with. To beat those who are as skilled as you are, you need better gear. Again.. to an extent.

Then we have Who you know. This is the most often overlooked. This is your personal network of players you can draw from. It involves which server you play on, the Free Company you are in, the statics you are apart of, and your personal friends. To put it shortly, you can have the best gear, be god's gift to the game, and still not be able to have anything to show for it if you don't have good people to work with. This also measures your ability to work with others, your charisma, your leadership, and your ability to follow as well as lead.

So to say you are one of the best without being in a savage, doesn't really test those three aspects. To be the best, you need a team that can work together. Which is just as important as knowing the game and having the gear needed. So don't take this the wrong way, but choosing to not engage in that sort of high level play with likeminded folk does drop you an entire tier by virtue of the three aspects.

This doesn't make you a bad player. This doesn't make you a subpar player. The three aspects aren't meant to measure the potential of a player. Nor their worth to others (You said you wish to RP for example, that's of great worth to those you are likely RPing with) But to measure what their effect actually is. Within a competitive environment.

To put it shortly. To be the best, you have to be the best, actively, and competitively.

[Hash_Browns]

Mention FFLogs and that you're parsing someone's DPS in game and I *will* report it. Very quickly in fact. That's been explicitly against the ToS forever.

See this right here is why I never mention FFLogs, and just kick people.