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  1. #271
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Wish is not granted; PC players can still use a parser. Either S-E needs to completely block third party addons, or provide a parser for PS4. One or the other. Otherwise, they're intentionally allowing an unfair playing field.
    If they found a way to block, detect, or whatever 3rd party programs. We'd just move the parser to a laptop on the side. Parsers don't have to be run on the same computer as the game. Many don't already. This is just a fact that has to be endured for letting PC/PS3/4 play together. Just be glad this isn't a PVP based first person shooter. The gap in advantages would be much higher in favor of PC.
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  2. #272
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by snarkomatic View Post
    Yeah but I can do the same thing using my girlfriend's already-owned television and PS4 set up next to mine, or I can run something on my phone while I use my PS4, or turn on something on my laptop (which runs games like crap because it's old as dirt) and enjoy Netflix/check a guide/whatever. So I've still got the $300 console and can still do everything you just listed (task-wise, not graphics/performance wise of course) without spending any extra money, or buying a second computer monitor to do so.


    Don't get me wrong -- I want a gaming PC. It's on my list of things to save up for. But as a single parent on limited income, it's kind of at the bottom of my list of things to save up for. And every time someone starts talking about how if I only spent 2-3x what I already had, I could do most of what I already can do, but with marginally nicer graphics ... I just have to laugh in poor person.
    But you dont get 60-90 fps on top of it.
    This is worth the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    None of which is worth the extra $300 dollars (would much rather spend that money on additional games). Better graphics? True, but not enough. Multi-tasking and two screens? I gave up desk and monitor gaming long ago (TV is so much better). The extra frames are the only thing that I miss, but not really.


    So yea, you get a better rig, but not enough to justify it, imo.
    You get higher fps, the game is smooth and runs well.
    You could play on your PC i have mine pluged into PC next to my desk
    You could do everything else. xD

    People kill to have good FPS in their games, its worth all the pennies you have.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 08-03-2019 at 05:16 AM.

  3. #273
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiteBrite View Post
    And it's against their terms of service to use them. But that's none of my business...
    FFlogs is not against ToS, only real-time parsers that intercept network data are. FFlogs is simply a website to which information may be posted and is outside the purview of the ToS.
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  4. #274
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    Qhas Ymir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    But you dont get 60-90 fps on top of it.
    This is worth the money.



    You get higher fps, the game is smooth and runs well.
    You could play on your PC i have mine pluged into PC next to my desk
    You could do everything else. xD

    People kill to have good FPS in their games, its worth all the pennies you have.
    The game is smooth and runs well on PS4. That's what we are trying to tell you.

    Do you get better frame rates? Sure. But ours are perfectly fine as well ...

    I did competitive endgame on ESO with PS4 frames and that game is optimized so poorly it actually makes a difference there -- and we still did pretty well for ourselves. On FF, it's night and day difference. No lag, no stutters, no telegraph or placement issues, nada.

    I get that you're saying it's better on PC, and I don't disagree with that assertion; I just disagree that it makes such a massive difference as you guys like to suggest. The game has a what, 2-sec GCD? It isn't twitch gaming. The only time I feel even a little inferior is with targeting and add-ons (the latter being the bigger point of this thread, I guess).

    I kill for paying bills at the end of the month and not feeling stretched between paychecks, not for marginal frame rate increases in MMOs of all things.
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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by snarkomatic View Post
    The game is smooth and runs well on PS4. That's what we are trying to tell you.

    Do you get better frame rates? Sure. But ours are perfectly fine as well ...

    I did competitive endgame on ESO with PS4 frames and that game is optimized so poorly it actually makes a difference there -- and we still did pretty well for ourselves. On FF, it's night and day difference. No lag, no stutters, no telegraph or placement issues, nada.

    I get that you're saying it's better on PC, and I don't disagree with that assertion; I just disagree that it makes such a massive difference as you guys like to suggest. The game has a what, 2-sec GCD? It isn't twitch gaming. The only time I feel even a little inferior is with targeting and add-ons (the latter being the bigger point of this thread, I guess).

    I kill for paying bills at the end of the month and not feeling stretched between paychecks, not for marginal frame rate increases in MMOs of all things.
    Imagine thinking framerates in a video game are worth breaking your bank over. Big yikes. PS4 Pro gives me 60fps and didn't break my bank at all. Feelsgoodman.
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Imagine thinking framerates in a video game are worth breaking your bank over. Big yikes. PS4 Pro gives me 60fps and didn't break my bank at all. Feelsgoodman.
    yeah I play on a PS4 pro as well and see no issues with it.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Imagine thinking framerates in a video game are worth breaking your bank over. Big yikes. PS4 Pro gives me 60fps and didn't break my bank at all. Feelsgoodman.
    Imagine thinking you're a top-tier healer with 0 savage clears over 6 years.
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Imagine thinking framerates in a video game are worth breaking your bank over. Big yikes. PS4 Pro gives me 60fps and didn't break my bank at all. Feelsgoodman.
    Imagine thinking people are "breaking bank" to get good fps. My 7 year old PC>Your PS4 Pro.
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    Imagine thinking people are "breaking bank" to get good fps. My 7 year old PC>Your PS4 Pro.
    Not even remotely, but I'm a big advocate for living in denial for the sake of personal happiness, so you do you.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Imagine thinking you're a top-tier healer with 0 savage clears over 6 years.
    Not everyone does Savage, buddy. Sorry to burst your bubble

    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    yeah I play on a PS4 pro as well and see no issues with it.
    Exactly. Nice, isn't it?
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  10. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Not everyone does Savage, buddy. Sorry to burst your bubble
    All actual top tier healers do buddy. Sorry to burst your bubble
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