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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Yes, we do exist.
    But the difference is most of us are not flaunting it like it's something special or wanting attention for it. If you need to rely on someones words to set your self worth instead of relying on yourself and actions to do so, you've already lost in life and you're being self entitled more then the other if prefer to have these pronouns used.

    We're human beings and words are not what treats us different but the actions of others for or against you in life. Quit using emotions to control your life, start using that wonderful powerful organ in your head and start treating it better as well. This whole movement to make others include people like myself and others in far and expansive ways since the population of people like me is less then 4% of the entire world, is just so odd. I don't want people bending over backwards for me, I don't want them to do anything other then treat me the same way I treat them. And I sure as heck don't get offended if they refer to me by a pronoun that I emotionally feel does not fit my non binary gender.

    I'm not special, just me. No LGBTQ+infinite is special. We're as human as anyone else, simple as that. Just go on with your life and quit expecting the world to treat us better for no reason. Quit using your sexuality define you, humans are far more then that and limiting them otherwise is silly.
    That's cool. That's you. I'm mostly the same but with the sole exception that I prefer people refer to me using they/them pronouns in English. Am I gonna pitch a fit if someone calls me she instead? No. Most of the time, it's a stranger and I'm not going to see them again. It just makes me a lot happier to be included. It's not bending over backwards any more than using binary pronouns already is for most people.

    Being nonbinary is not a sexuality. It's a gender identity, which is separate. This "wonderful powerful organ" in my head is most pleased when people at least make the attempt to use gender neutral pronouns. I'm simply asking this game, which tickles my "wonderful power organ", make a change that would make this game better for me. We may be a small part of the world, but that doesn't make us less important or deserving to be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo View Post
    That's cool. That's you. I'm mostly the same but with the sole exception that I prefer people refer to me using they/them pronouns in English. Am I gonna pitch a fit if someone calls me she instead? No. Most of the time, it's a stranger and I'm not going to see them again. It just makes me a lot happier to be included. It's not bending over backwards any more than using binary pronouns already is for most people.

    Being nonbinary is not a sexuality. It's a gender identity, which is separate. This "wonderful powerful organ" in my head is most pleased when people at least make the attempt to use gender neutral pronouns. I'm simply asking this game, which tickles my "wonderful power organ", make a change that would make this game better for me. We may be a small part of the world, but that doesn't make us less important or deserving to be ignored.
    Non binary is still 100% connected to sexuality though. Sexuality is not your genitals, but what's in your mind and spirit, that simple really. And you just admitted that it makes you happy to feel included, thus you do rely on your emotions still to a great extent in interacting with those in the world. But you're right, I don't want others to see me a special to make me feel happy or good, I've a close group of family, friends and the like that do that for me. I mean, I even laugh it off when my uncle still makes fun of that little girl who likes to play too wild. You can guess on what he sees as too wild, most would honestly see it that way as well if they knew lol.

    But again where we differ is I don't feel the majority of the world needs to bend over to add things into a game that has a story and lore already behind it. I mean, when played D&D at a friends house two weekends ago, my "Paladin" was an outcast of the order and clergy, a woman who had sought dark magics to have a big ol wanger to bang people with. I sure as heck don't expect the rest of the world to want that =P But hey, that's D&D do whatever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Call me old fashioned but I consider sexuality a part of peoples private life.
    I don't care and I don't want it shoved into my face. Yes.

    BTW what do you mean by this:

    Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
    Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo
    My gender is fairly public, like anyone else's? Are woman shoving it in your face when you call them she or her? Are men? Is a male dog shoving it in your face when you go "aw, who's such a good boy"?

    English has a long history of singular they, with written references dating back to the 16th century. It's actually been around longer as singular they than as plural they. So no, I'm not seeing myself as multiple personalities or whatever. I am one person using singular they/them pronouns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Non binary is still 100% connected to sexuality though. Sexuality is not your genitals, but what's in your mind and spirit, that simple really. And you just admitted that it makes you happy to feel included, thus you do rely on your emotions still to a great extent in interacting with those in the world. But you're right, I don't want others to see me a special to make me feel happy or good, I've a close group of family, friends and the like that do that for me. I mean, I even laugh it off when my uncle still makes fun of that little girl who likes to play too wild. You can guess on what he sees as too wild, most would honestly see it that way as well if they knew lol.

    But again where we differ is I don't feel the majority of the world needs to bend over to add things into a game that has a story and lore already behind it. I mean, when played D&D at a friends house two weekends ago, my "Paladin" was an outcast of the order and clergy, a woman who had sought dark magics to have a big ol wanger to bang people with. I sure as heck don't expect the rest of the world to want that =P But hey, that's D&D do whatever!
    Emotions are an inherent part of being human. It's actually legit considered a mental illness to not have emotions influence your decisions, daily or whatnot. If you react differently, more power to you. I've put years of thought into my gender identity. Please don't tell me that asking for the simple respectful thing of referring to me as I want to be referred to as simply an emotional reaction.

    Also, sexuality is ... sexual stuff. Like being a lesbian. It's not gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo View Post
    My gender is fairly public, like anyone else's? Are woman shoving it in your face when you call them she or her? Are men? Is a male dog shoving it in your face when you go "aw, who's such a good boy"?

    English has a long history of singular they, with written references dating back to the 16th century. It's actually been around longer as singular they than as plural they. So no, I'm not seeing myself as multiple personalities or whatever. I am one person using singular they/them pronouns.



    Emotions are an inherent part of being human. It's actually legit considered a mental illness to not have emotions influence your decisions, daily or whatnot. If you react differently, more power to you. I've put years of thought into my gender identity. Please don't tell me that asking for the simple respectful thing of referring to me as I want to be referred to as simply an emotional reaction.

    Also, sexuality is ... sexual stuff. Like being a lesbian. It's not gender.
    I never said it was a gender, but it's still 100% connected to sexuality. And you're right, emotions influence us every day, but not your decisions. It's actually a mental illness to have them affect your actions without processing it first in your mind. One of them is called being bipolar, where you are unable to regulate your emotions and control them like a healthy human can.
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