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    HumanNinjaToo's Avatar
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    Blaise Darkstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    actually it's more likely going because they were successful at trying to bait out replies like yours that can be attacked on the basis of inclusion and calling your morals into question instead of looking at the actual technical merits/costs/benefits of a change like the one that was proposed.

    It's already been admitted by both proponents and opponents that the change is too much to apply to this game already. The rest of it is people trying to either make themselves look good, or vilify others.
    Yes, that was the joke. I guess my sarcasm missed the mark... o.O
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    Eros Grehryss
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    Not worth it. Looks like this SJW trash fire thread won't be locked.
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    Last edited by DiscoDuck; 07-30-2019 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Why did this thread make it 30 pages?
    Because of people like me that love drama.
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  4. #294
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    Mihana's Avatar
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    Sa'hana Zhralyia
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saidosha View Post
    But like some others, I subscribe to the notion that this isn't Earth as we know it.

    Thank you! I agree here so much. To be clear I'm all for individuality and expressing your uniqueness but so often many forget that you cannot apply the exact same real world logics to a fictional land and its inhabitants. Never mind a request like this would be an unbelievable undertaking for the development team drawing away valuable resources that could be used for other projects. But we see demands or controversies being created at trying to apply real world details to a fantasy world very often. The clothing worn by characters in a game, the way one gender may be portrayed, and so on. Like your example about garments worn in FFX.


    Something else worth mentioning here too is different cultures around the world. For example same sex marriages aren't commonly recognized in places like Japan. Slowly of course that has been changing over the years, but SE had to be very careful about that when dealing with marriage in-game between two people of the same sex. This was referred to as "Eternal Bonding" instead to get around it and instead of being marriage, was a "union between two adventurers creating a bond between one another". Sure, on the surface it sounds different but that's exactly what marriage is. It took a long time for them to even introduce the bunny outfits as equippable by male characters and still is the only equipment that can be. Gender pronouns however are a whole other thing here. Going back to Japan for example, changing one's gender is acceptable but only if they undergo the actual operations and laws to change it. Even now it's wrought with challenges where in the US one can simply decide what gender or non-gender they wish to identify as.


    Like it or not however, this is a game that originated in Japan from a Japanese company. Adding in pronouns even if you looked past if it would fit the fictional world would certainly cause a great deal of controversies and problems for SE in the east. It wouldn't be as simple as creating a change in the translations to refer to the player character as something other than the gender their model appears as, it would require extra coding specifically for the North American client or if applied to all clients a means of disabling the option in non-English clients. All-in-all more work than it's worth for them to do and the potential issues that arise from it all. But if I'm wrong and it's actually very easy to do and wouldn't caused hardships for the company then I'd say go ahead and add it in.


    Truth of the matter however is that it probably won't be or otherwise you'd have seen it far more commonly added by now in other games.
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    Last edited by Mihana; 07-30-2019 at 03:17 PM. Reason: Formatting since the forums made it into one big chunk of text...

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