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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    if someone else is using a parser my dps will look bad even though i am doing a good job saving the run".
    Just putting this out there, most people that parse, if they see someone drastically under performing will look at the skills used. Once they see all the rezing, no one is going to count that against you. It also tells you how many times someone died and lets say both healers go down and you're there on your rdm and your dps dipped, they know it's because you're rezing.

    I see examples like this thrown out alot, no one is that dumb. If they are, chances are they can't figure out how to get the parser installed and you can just flame them for being dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Myself, I just play have fun. If I don't like skills a class has, I don't care if it is better dps or not. I won't use them. If a aoe rotation is clunky, I just won't use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nims View Post
    Just putting this out there, most people that parse, if they see someone drastically under performing will look at the skills used. Once they see all the rezing, no one is going to count that against you. It also tells you how many times someone died and lets say both healers go down and you're there on your rdm and your dps dipped, they know it's because you're rezing.

    I see examples like this thrown out alot, no one is that dumb. If they are, chances are they can't figure out how to get the parser installed and you can just flame them for being dumb.
    To add to that, if you're the one that ends up rezzing so many times in the raid, chances are a lot of people in that group are not doing so hot either and yes, by all means, flame the donkey that's attempting to parser shame you and the others that might join in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nims View Post
    Just putting this out there, most people that parse, if they see someone drastically under performing will look at the skills used. Once they see all the rezing, no one is going to count that against you. It also tells you how many times someone died and lets say both healers go down and you're there on your rdm and your dps dipped, they know it's because you're rezing.

    I see examples like this thrown out alot, no one is that dumb. If they are, chances are they can't figure out how to get the parser installed and you can just flame them for being dumb.
    You say they will look, but not always.
    While I can only go by examples of WoW, where it was common place, nearly 1 in 5 groups would do stuff like that.
    IDK why, but the moment they start a vote kick, it always went through, so I can only assume the rest of the group just assumes they know what they are talking about.

    Here, Ive only encountered it a small handfull of times, but most likely because people keep quiet about it. The few times it was brought up, was in voice chat, where they or myself, could speak up on their behalf AS its happening, so it doesnt get ignored.
    (I think voice chat being more common, also helps fix this. When I hear a RDM saying "Ill rez them" to the healers, we all know what they are doing. Then again, pugs may be different, not sure how much pugs use voice chat.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    You say they will look, but not always.
    While I can only go by examples of WoW, where it was common place, nearly 1 in 5 groups would do stuff like that.
    IDK why, but the moment they start a vote kick, it always went through, so I can only assume the rest of the group just assumes they know what they are talking about.

    Here, Ive only encountered it a small handfull of times, but most likely because people keep quiet about it. The few times it was brought up, was in voice chat, where they or myself, could speak up on their behalf AS its happening, so it doesnt get ignored.
    (I think voice chat being more common, also helps fix this. When I hear a RDM saying "Ill rez them" to the healers, we all know what they are doing. Then again, pugs may be different, not sure how much pugs use voice chat.)
    Again, the ones that don't are dumb and we don't really care about them.

    I can honestly assure you, that if someone's dps is below what it should be, people are going to look and see why. I can go by examples of people in this actual game, I can't go off WoW, I don't play WoW and the people in that game are different than here.

    I've been in discords where people have discussed other players and they looked to see what was going on.
    I've been in parties myself and looked myself.

    Everyone isn't just super die hard numbers and nothing else matters unless it's like something drastic. Like a blm doing 3k dps in level 70/80 content...and even then people are going to look to see what he's doing wrong anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Myself, I just play have fun. If I don't like skills a class has, I don't care if it is better dps or not. I won't use them. If a aoe rotation is clunky, I just won't use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nims View Post
    Just putting this out there, most people that parse, if they see someone drastically under performing will look at the skills used. Once they see all the rezing, no one is going to count that against you. It also tells you how many times someone died and lets say both healers go down and you're there on your rdm and your dps dipped, they know it's because you're rezing.

    I see examples like this thrown out alot, no one is that dumb. If they are, chances are they can't figure out how to get the parser installed and you can just flame them for being dumb.
    Most people as you said, but there also some who type a player name on fflogs, look at the rank his dps give him, and kick him a few seconds later if the associated color is not pretty enough for their tastes, not looking at anything else.

    I still remember this SAM who was kicked 20 seconds top after joining a pf i was in, because "he is useless with a dps like that". His friend did leave as well after a bit of arguing, another player did leave as well saying this was rude, and the group did collapse from a single kick, 30 minutes of forming it wasted. So i did go check the SAM parses, expecting something veeeeeery low, and was like "uh what ?", because he was performing average enough to get the job done.

    Now these kind of people sure use their parsers and fflogs wrongly, but even knowing that i dont feel at ease chain rezzing in raids, while i have a blast doing it in non-parsing content like hunts or Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    fflogs
    My stance was more so about parsers like ACT. I don't really use fflogs and kind of forgot about that website, I like seeing stuff in action, so I can't really speak on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Myself, I just play have fun. If I don't like skills a class has, I don't care if it is better dps or not. I won't use them. If a aoe rotation is clunky, I just won't use it.