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  1. #21
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    Saintly Gallowmere
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    They should just add an official parser on both platforms and allow community to police it self.
    If anything people with extremely bad DPS will at least get a chance to step up their game instead of just getting kicked without knowing the reason like its happening now.

    As for crybabies/special snowflakes who get offended when someone mentioning their low DPS, i don't see anything stopping them from /blocking the big bad person who "harassed" them.
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  2. #22
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    Shai Rae
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saintly View Post
    They should just add an official parser on both platforms and allow community to police it self.
    If anything people with extremely bad DPS will at least get a chance to step up their game instead of just getting kicked without knowing the reason like its happening now.

    As for crybabies/special snowflakes who get offended when someone mentioning their low DPS, i don't see anything stopping them from /blocking the big bad person who "harassed" them.
    Did anyone ever tell you your lipstick shade isn't right for your skin tone?
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  3. #23
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    Zellos Wilder
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    As a player who quit mid HW and came back during the end of SB, I'm still surprised they haven't added:

    1. an official in-game parser
    2. an official in-game voice chat

    I've been wanting these features since ARR these are big problems for PS4 players... in previous expansions communicating with other players are key especially when doing savage content and playing with a mix group of PS4/PC players. Also being able to see how much damage each member in your group is doing you can see which members are falling behind and need to improve, if they added these features for PS4 players it would increase the % of players clearing these content as it would most likely improve players as some don't even know if they are playing their job correctly or to the maximum. Also some PC players probably don't like using third party tools so an official one would benefit them as well.

    Looking to join a static or creating one yourself also gives you a huge disadvantage as a PS4 player as less players are going to join your static or let you join theirs if you can't communicate with them on voice-chat. Parsing is the same as well as I used to be a leader of a static but was never able to tell which members are lacking behind others and you can't really improve as a team as a whole if someone doesn't point that out.

    As long as they make it so players can opt in or out of joining a parse during content or in-game voice chat because not everyone is comfortable in doing so then I don't see any real reasoning as to why they haven't already added them.
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  4. #24
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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Did anyone ever tell you your lipstick shade isn't right for your skin tone?
    Hey! This is a civil forum for legitimate discourse! How dare you brutally attack that person!
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  5. #25
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Ragnarok
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    in game voice chat?
    As long as it's optional.....I doubt i want to hear half the people I get grouped with.
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  6. #26
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    Ku Rando
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post
    snip.
    You don't really need in-game voice chat when PS4 provides their own, and also most players opt to use Discord. You can get the app for this on smartphones so no, PS4 players are not at any disadvantage,

    I'm not sure the percentage of players clearing content would increase much either, it's a double edged sword. Yeah some might be fully fluent in whatever language used, others not so much thus how can you translate the voice chat to explain it to them. Plus in many games out there that do have voice chat, it's very easy for things to become toxic very fast and unless SE records every single in-game chat (which I don't think people will agree to) then they have no way of monitoring what is being said.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    in game voice chat?
    As long as it's optional.....I doubt i want to hear half the people I get grouped with.
    Ofc it has to be optional you should be able to mute them, especially because FFXIV is cross-platform multiplayer game an in-game voice chat feature should be a high priority.

    During fights I don't type on my Keyboard as PS4 player as well as I'm playing using my controller being able to say something to the rest of the group without having to stop your focus on fight to be able to type something would go long way for players like me.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Did anyone ever tell you your lipstick shade isn't right for your skin tone?
    I consider this a personal attack and harassment!
    Raported!

    To answer your question tho, no, but thanks for the letting me know.
    Unfortunately bright green was not available.
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  9. #29
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    I am not supporting it nor against it.
    Thing is i doubt it will ever be allowed publicly or added. No doubt it will cause more conflict between players and it will become extra workload for all the GM to review each cases. I strongly believe SE will not invest in this field with little revenues generated in return
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  10. #30
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I am all for something that lets us view our own DPS. Anything more than that will just open the door to even more abuse and poo slinging than FFlogs does alone.

    And yeah, you touched on the main reason why parses, SSS, and FFlogs don't even paint the full picture on why someone's DPS might be a low amount in a fight -- understanding of fight mechanics, especially as a melee, is critical in maintaining good DPS, and a parse won't necessarily measure that. All it does measure is deaths and damage taken, but even if someone doesn't actually die, there will still be a huge difference between someone still learning the fight and losing a lot of uptime trying to handle the mechanics, and something like this.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 07-26-2019 at 10:12 PM.

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