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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Learning View Post
    Back in ARR, there were also people saying 'no content!' or 'need more raids!' and the reaction to them, curiously, is the same one people give now:

    -Ok, sorry you aren't happy, you can go play something else, I'm happy so I am going to keep playing

    I remember strongly one poster who said 'It's ok, let them go, the game will cater to those who enjoy it and remain'

    At the time, I thought it meant FF would become a very niche game, small population game, due to this focus on a certain group of players.

    The opposite has happened - the game keeps growing and growing, where now people see FF14, ESO, and WoW as the big three MMOs on the market, and shadowbringers maybe just pushed FF to the top. Point being, this game has a steady growing population that enjoys the game, it's format, and how things are done.

    Nevertheless expansions launch, and maybe every patch, there is someone who says 'I'm not happy'.

    How do expect this ever growing population to respond considering they have been playing and enjoying it, while subs continue to grow?

    'ok, guess it's not for you, I'm happy, I,m gonna keep playing, hope you find something you like'

    I was scared about this attitude back in ARR, but now, six years later, it's proven to be a winning formula.

    When people say to you 'FF is different from MMOs', what they are also saying to you 'and that's why I like it'

    Thus, when people say things like 'gee, I wish this MMO was more like X', and they go ' that's not FF, you should find something'

    They probably aren't trying to be insulting, they probably think they are being helpful and giving you good advice.

    Unlike the WoW forums, where they will try to convince you that you are wrong, and maybe work overtime to convince you why you should stay.

    People here are pretty mature, they don't sense the need that they need to convince you if you like something.

    It's as if you are complaining at McDonalds, and they recommend you try Burger King, but you say 'No, I want McDonalds to change instead!'

    How do you expect the people who enjoy McDonalds to react? They likely dont want it to change and would prefer you just find what you enjoy.

    My recommendation to you: Classic WoW
    Thanks for basically proving my point. While it may be said in a mature and not condescending manner, the message is basically that if I like having raids, I should just play WoW and not voice my opinion in trying to improve the raid scene in this game, because it isn't going to happen. Currently, I don't like WoW at all, and like FF but not the lack of challenging content. I've been unsubbed for probably over half the time between Heavensward to now because I blow through the challenging stuff(minus Ultimate I don't have a dedicated static) and have nothing left to stimulate me. People ask for stuff on this forum that they believe will make the game better all the time. Well, this is what I'm asking for — more difficult battle content than what we have gotten the past 4 years. This system of farming two snoozefest expert dungeons and two ex primals that I can do in my sleep for tomes and totems gets old. This is not to denote anyone else's skill level, everyone has their own pace. But for me, it is like Satasha, as one person stated. No change at all since Heavensward, because you guys eat it up. They give us reskinned primal fights for the raids and you guys cheer. Why would the dev team try to improve when they know they can dish out anything for challenging battle content and you'll be satisfied?

    Why aren't raiders allowed to want something from this game too, without being told to 'go back to WoW'? I'm not trying to hamper your casual gameplay experience, but there is currently no MMO I feel I can go to at the moment where I can have raids that will keep me occupied. This Savage raid thing will only be a 2 month window before it fizzles out for me. The 24 man raid won't even last a week for me. FFXI was my MMO, but they destroyed it with Abyssea. Before that, I always had challenging content to do. Now, there is nowhere to go. The casual MMORPG has taken over the market, and left no room for those who enjoy challenges. We were usurped by the casual crowd, and we get shot down for wanting a shadow of the former challenging content we had.
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