Lack of End Game Content

[LalaRu]

...The OP is obviously specifically talking about challenging end-game content and that there is too little of it.


I keep seeing people being really passive aggressive in their responses completely misunderstanding that the OP is not talking about all content....

Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

[Kaitoo]

Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

casual doesnt mean bad, you dont to get invent new definition, thats the silly part here

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

this has nothing to do with what you quoted

[aeoncs]

sounds like soundproof plan to fuck up the raiding scene

Ok, humour me. In which way would that "fuck up the raiding scene"?

Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

The hardcore crowd isn't the main target population of any MMORPG and that's besides the point. They specifically designed Ultimate for those players and made Savage slightly more tame to make it more accessible.
So they are clearly still thinking of new ways to please players craving more varied & challenging endgame content; which is something Yoshi has repeatedly made clear.

Also, good on you for actually proving Selova's point - the passive-aggressive responses of some of the "casual crowd" are frankly quite ludicrous.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

Ok, humour me. In which way would that "fuck up the raiding scene"?





The hardcore crowd isn't the main target population of any MMORPG and that's besides the point. They specifically designed Ultimate for those players and made Savage slightly more tame to make it more accessible.
So they are clearly still thinking of new ways to please players craving more varied & challenging endgame content; which is something Yoshi has repeatedly made clear.

Also, good on you for actually proving Selova's point - the passive-aggressive responses of some of the "casual crowd" are frankly quite ludicrous.

So why respond in a passive-aggressive way yourself? If you have an issue with how people you disagree with talk, why do the same yourself? And why pretend it's a 'casual crowd' ludicrous thing, raiders do it too.

I mean, the thread is full of hardcores acting like 15-20 hours a week is 'ultra casual', like if you haven't gotten through the MSQ yet there's something wrong with you. 2+ hours a day on a hobby, if you consider most people have about 6 hours of recreation time a day, tops, is quite hardcore, and would be considered so for almost any other hobby.

It doesn't seem unreasonable that players that play about 15 hours a week, and aren't maximizing their time by skipping most of the content- are going to have content to do well after those that play 40+. Even if they were to make 200 hours of casual content per patch, and 200 hours of hardcore raid content- it'd still take most of the patch for casuals to get through it, while hardcores would be bored in a month... except they'd be putting a massive amount of time into developing content for 10% or less of the playerbase.

Now, nobody likes being told they're going to get less content, I sympathize with that- but it's pretty tiring to continually have all the non-raid content be treated as if it doesn't matter by the elite few, so of course when raiders do that, as they are in this thread, it'll get pushback from those who are annoyed at being treated like they're lesser for not being elite. It does matter, it is endgame, and frankly this game has a pre-end-game that matters, unlike every other MMO where the pre-endgame is purely a barrier, and not intended to be enjoyable, and with no effort put into it.