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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    You can thank other players for this. Players in general do not want this in an MMO. Coil had small bits of this and people didn't want it so now we get what we get.
    I've only been playing this game since early access for Stormblood, thanks to Playstation Access on YouTube doing a really detailed video about FF14 and Stormblood, so I still feel very much a noob player compared to most people on these forums and I have meet in game.

    Over these past couple of years, I have noticed the odd post or comment about some of the Duties being nerfed, as people we up in arms about it being too difficult. Again, I honestly thought this was people over reacting, but it seems they were actually telling the truth?

    One reason why I avoided doing a lot of the bigger duties ( 8 man upwards) is that I am always being embarrassed and/or ashamed of how poorly I am playing. Even though I now use a PC, I still use my Dual Shock 4, as I have a lot of spinal nerve damage and it's very painful for me to sit at my desk to play. Also, I take quite a large amounts of opiates, which is like having a fog in my head most of the time. The reason I bring this up, is I understand it is my own shortcomings that prevented me from beating some of the content and I would never have the gaul to demand they nerf stuff, just so it easy enough for me to do. So am I correct in thinking that your comment is about players wanting things spoon fed to them, rather than actually trying to beat the fight by improving?

    Like I mentioned in my post you quoted, I always thought the claims people made about this sort of stuff happening, was typical forum over-reaction, but it seems I may have brushed it off too easily myself?

    I am not very good with remembering names in general, so I don't understand what you are referring to when you mention "Coil had small bits of this...." Please could you go into a bit more depth on this for me?


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    FElix
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelixDaCat View Post
    Over these past couple of years, I have noticed the odd post or comment about some of the Duties being nerfed, as people we up in arms about it being too difficult. Again, I honestly thought this was people over reacting, but it seems they were actually telling the truth?

    The reason I bring this up, is I understand it is my own shortcomings that prevented me from beating some of the content and I would never have the gaul to demand they nerf stuff, just so it easy enough for me to do. So am I correct in thinking that your comment is about players wanting things spoon fed to them, rather than actually trying to beat the fight by improving?

    I am not very good with remembering names in general, so I don't understand what you are referring to when you mention "Coil had small bits of this...." Please could you go into a bit more depth on this for me?
    People complain about a lot of things they find difficult to overcome be it dungeons in MMOs, other classes/characters in PvP settings. Sometimes it is founded on legitimate ground such as an equal level World of Warcraft Rogue being able stun lock and kill a Warrior or Paladin from full HP in PvP as an example, others are were just bad players not understanding how something worked or thought was too hard in the case of dungeons.

    When people refer to Coil in the context of FFXIV, they are usually referring to the Binding Coil of Bahamut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    People complain about a lot of things they find difficult to overcome be it dungeons in MMOs, other classes/characters in PvP settings. Sometimes it is founded on legitimate ground such as an equal level World of Warcraft Rogue being able stun lock and kill a Warrior or Paladin from full HP in PvP as an example, others are were just bad players not understanding how something worked or thought was too hard in the case of dungeons.

    When people refer to Coil in the context of FFXIV, they are usually referring to the Binding Coil of Bahamut.
    Thank you for replying , I never experienced Bahamut due to when I started FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelixDaCat View Post
    I've only been playing this game since early access for Stormblood, thanks to Playstation Access on YouTube doing a really detailed video about FF14 and Stormblood, so I still feel very much a noob player compared to most people on these forums and I have meet in game.

    Over these past couple of years, I have noticed the odd post or comment about some of the Duties being nerfed, as people we up in arms about it being too difficult. Again, I honestly thought this was people over reacting, but it seems they were actually telling the truth?

    One reason why I avoided doing a lot of the bigger duties ( 8 man upwards) is that I am always being embarrassed and/or ashamed of how poorly I am playing. Even though I now use a PC, I still use my Dual Shock 4, as I have a lot of spinal nerve damage and it's very painful for me to sit at my desk to play. Also, I take quite a large amounts of opiates, which is like having a fog in my head most of the time. The reason I bring this up, is I understand it is my own shortcomings that prevented me from beating some of the content and I would never have the gaul to demand they nerf stuff, just so it easy enough for me to do. So am I correct in thinking that your comment is about players wanting things spoon fed to them, rather than actually trying to beat the fight by improving?

    Like I mentioned in my post you quoted, I always thought the claims people made about this sort of stuff happening, was typical forum over-reaction, but it seems I may have brushed it off too easily myself?

    I am not very good with remembering names in general, so I don't understand what you are referring to when you mention "Coil had small bits of this...." Please could you go into a bit more depth on this for me?


    Regards,


    FElix
    what i meant by "small bits" was the Coil has what you asked for

    you said

    Quote Originally Posted by FelixDaCat View Post
    area that you have to fight your way though, to finally reach the end.
    Binding Coil Turn 1 has it, Turn 3 is completely that. Second Coil Turn 1, 2 and 3 all have it. Alexander had a little bit too but Omega and Eden has completely gotten rid of any kind of trash before the boss. Omega has segments but they were all done only in Normal mode as part of the story and cut-out of the Duty Finder/Party Finder portion of the fights. i was not talking about the difficulty or players not wanting to improve. players want to get to what matters which is the boss fights.

    also you can unsync Coil and do it by yourself or with a friend. not all of it is soloable even at 80 with some one-shot mechanics but you can still experience it with not too much difficulty.
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