Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
Except, plenty can be done.
All of what you said, already exists. Those who need a refresher, go through earlier dungeons. At their leisure. When I took a break at the end of 4.0 and then came back at the tail end of 4.5. I had a dozen dungeons to learn, and about a year's worth of time out of practice. I literally picked up BLM, a class I hadn't touched since 2.0 and went right in.

I had no issue picking up the new Enochian mechanics and applying them to content I'd never seen before. I don't need a tutorial. I don't need a any of what you suggested. I don't WANT to go through any of what you suggested. So you're going to have to make such content, Optional.

That means you do not see the desired effect.

Good players like me do not need such things. We can jump in wherever and do fine. We can learn things on the fly.

The bad players that you want to make not-bad, will skip the content you suggest too. And will be still bad. You can't make bad players not-bad. That's an impossibility. Even if you made it mandatory. They'll slug through it, and then go back to being bad once they've got you in their group. Because they'll let YOU carry them. And if they're bad enough that they can't get it done, they'll get someone else to do it for them.

You only have two options when it comes to these players. Pick up their slack, or vote kick them and get someone else. Adding anything else, doesn't change that. It just adds extra steps.

But everyone knows this. Lets not hide the true agenda of some of you. Some of you are simply want to see those who skip have 'some' work. They're not sitting through cutscenes, they're not doing fetch quests. This irks some people. So they want to see them have to do something. Something akin to fairness. And I cannot get on board with that. Such line of thinking is under my beliefs immoral, as it contains jealousy and envy. I can't abide that. I'll never get behind that. I'm only hoping that some of you have naivety to blame for such a position. Cause then hopefully a simple discussion will yield results and show that all these little obstacles won't help in the end.

Many of you know I'm correct on this. There's not a single player who skipped who's a good player that struggles with any of the duty finder content. Nothing in the DF is hard enough for the decent player to work through and whether they skip or not is irrelevant. While the same cannot be said of bad players. They're bad because they simply just do not wish to bother. Some of these skip, some don't. The ones who don't are not better for it. We all saw this before skipping was an option.

So lets get away from adding steps to people who purchased a skip. They skipped to play with friends. To get to be with the rest of us great players. Let them be. I promise you the good ones (which there are many), are not hurting you.