Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Reeereee]

please show me one person who did that, i cant find any

I mean, did you read the OP?

"There is virtually no challenge outside of savage raids. There is little community aspect since everything is instanced, and people are far more concerned with minions and mounts that discussing battle startegies, since none is required.

I'm pretty old now I guess. I came up on EQ, played XI for 5 years and started XIV on 1.0. I played XIV now on and off. I resubbed this month with the expansion hype, but leveling my AST I found myself asking why. I mean, healing is no challenge what so ever. I'm mostly spamming my DD spells."

First he states there is no challenge outside of savage raids.

Then he follows that up by complaining that leveling dungeons are boring because they are no challenge.

The implications seem pretty clear.

[Eli85]

OP, if you truly believe that XI was a "challenge," then you are misremembering what the game was. XI—like many of its peers in its generation—punished mistakes (XP loss on wipe) and was tedious (the grind is real). Neither of these things are actually "hard." There were some hard bosses, both killable and unkillable, but nothing in XI—and the MMORPG genre in general—screams hard. And while I do not do Savage in XIV, I do have a lot of experience with the hardest of the hardest MMO content. I just don't do it anymore because I don't want to invest the time required; there's too many other great games to play, great books to read, and great content to stream. So I do know what I'm talking about.



You want a challenge in gaming? Go play Dark Souls. Otherwise, please stop. Projecting tedium as "challenge" really doesn't make your case.

[GomJabbar]

Why shouldn't they? People will watch them and use the information.

She didn't say they shouldn't at all... Just not day one.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

She didn't say they shouldn't at all... Just not day one. I agree, because I actually like to experience the story and excitement as it was meant to be. If I have trouble, sure, I'll go back and watch a vid, but day one? Those are basically spoilers.

Is someone forcing you to watch them? Like does FFXIV post a link to the stream and force you to watch it before you can que?

[FoxyAreku]

Not sure what you mean by 'the challenge is gone'. This game never had challenge to begin with outside of extremes/savage.

Unless you count 1.0 I guess.

[linay]

Guides shouldn't be put out day one of content, especially for normal modes.

Who watches guides for normal mode? lol. At least, I don't remember anyone ever asking people to watch a guide on day 1 of dungeons, trials, or even raids in normal mode. That said, I have seen people teaching the mechanics either because they've done it or because they've watched a guide, but don't remember people asking others to watch a guide.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Who watches guides for normal mode? lol. At least, I don't remember anyone ever asking people to watch a guide on day 1 of dungeons, trials, or even raids in normal mode. That said, I have seen people teaching the mechanics either because they've done it or because they've watched a guide, but don't remember people asking others to watch a guide.

Why would they make the guides if people didn't watch them?

[linay]

Why would they make the guides if people didn't watch them?

If they do, they certainly shouldn't be enough to lessen people's enjoyment of going in blind.

[Fhaerron]

Why would they make the guides if people didn't watch them?

Considering how people still fail at easy mechanics like stack and spread markers I don't think many actually do.
Then again, guides aren't really of any help for the majority of the community seeing they still wipe to the easiest mechanics months after release.

I would really wish that the 'carry me senpai' mentality in DF would just stop.
And the 'kill for friend' trap party in PF but you can just ignore these groups so it's not as big of an issue.

Take a look at the Japanese Datacenters, there it's basically the other way around, there it's actually rare to find such situations.

[Fhaerron]

hence why there are so many women playing this game, since they dont have to dedicate their life towards it.

I do not like this statement.
So men doesn't have to dedicate their life to play 'difficult MMO's'?

Back in the early days of wow, up until recent Mythic clears I've had a lot of female friends who'd clear highest difficulty where most have full time jobs and/or kids, partners, pets, etc.

Dedicating your life to something is because you want it, not because it's super hard.