Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The same question still applies those. Why? You may prefer to go in blind, but not everyone does or cares. If you can't find a party for blind prog, then make one yourself. Guide makers are going to release content quickly because the whole intent is catering towards who want them.

I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.

One of the current annoyances I deal with is the A B C callout for cerberus in WoD. You don't need a whole alliance for chains. All dps should get eaten to speed the fight up.


I personally don't watch guides because a guide only tells me what I can learn the first time I go in anyway. Sure, I reference guides when looking for adjustments for a group as a whole (who should be where and when) when we get stuck on a phase or mechanic. But for the most part, I learn the fight as I go. It's worked out so far.

[Joven]

I have played a game like that, Silkroad online, i just hit level 20 and bought my lvl 20 weapon, sold my lvl 15 weapon and died to teh first mob i engaged due to a DC, i leveled down to 19 and could no longer use my 20 weapon and i didn't have enough money to buy a weaker weapon so i had to punch mobs and spam potions just to get my lvl back. It was an experience for sure.

Lol, sounds like an unforgiving game. I had something similar happen in a game called Zombi U where if you 'die' you start over with nothing but a cricket bat and have to find your last character and kill them to get your stuff back. Apparently zombies in that game have a random insta-kill lunge that I didn't know about and got jumped with all my gear. My new character woke up to "there's a large horde heading straight for the hideout" with nothing but a bat.

[Burningskull]

I think there is a huge different between challenging and time sync. Old MMOs were mostly time syncs where the only difficulty was "how many players do we need to throw at something." Savage Raids and (now that they are added) Ultimate Fights are very mechanically heavy and require communication between the players. Yet every one keeps saying this part of the game needs to be harder, and this part of the game needs to be harder. If you make everything like Savage Raids and Ultimate Fights, which only a small portion of the community cares about doing, you're going to push the other 90% of the people that play the game to another game. The devs only have so many work hours between the patches so more hardcore content will cost other content. We already lost one dungeon every other patch for Ultimate fights and Eureka. They also have the the challenging aspects of Deep Dungeons and they even put a Savage like fight in what was meant to be casual content in Eureka. The game has enough hardcore challenging content.

[kidalutz]

I'm seeing pretty much what I thought I would. You don't have to agree with my opinion, but offer your own instead of 'wishing their was a dislike button'.

Also, community isn't the same as sub numbers. There might be more people playing than ever, but be honest, what community interaction do the MAJORITY of people have besides standing in their city of choice and waiting for their queue?

I understand the game is trying to cater to more people, which is exactly my point. WoW streamlined everything and in the end Classic is being released for all their efforts. A 15 year old product is more appealing to the playerbase than the current version. That's what I don't want for XIV.

It doesn't have to be DMC ball busting hard, but come on, dungeons and 24 man content is brain dead outside of the 1st week of release.

Frankly I have lots of interaction with my community my FC and I do a bunch of things together i group for random content and make friends with strangers I participate in Hunts with many of the community the difficulty curve hasn't affected it in the slightest granted I havent done any savage content or ex trials for SB but I really have been more trying to hit 70 on a bunch of classes before ShB hits.

[Nedkel]

Whoa. Let's back this up a second because I really don't appreciate the implications here. You have essentially said women couldn't play difficult games unless they dedicate their lives towards it. Or, conversely, imply that only men want to dedicate a lot of their free time towards video games.

Either way, this is very much a road you don't want to go down.

No? I specifically wrote about time spent in the game and that you could have fun with any amount of time, since that what the games are for, right? How did you came up with an idea of me suggesting women cant play hard games? I have no idea.
I meant, women tend to be more busy in real life for obvious reasons, and they will choose more (FUN) rewarding game per hour spent over a game where you have to no life in order to get nice things. FFXIV you could play any time you want and you will still enjoy it, for example playing hard content which does not require a ton of time to just get in and do it.

[Selova]

Nope. "Influencers" are a blight upon this star in my opinion. Especially one who puts out strat guides that completely ruin experiences for people getting in a few days of content release or spewing nonsense that isn't actually enjoyable.

Party Finders guaranteed on launch of WATCH A GUIDE... of something I didn't make but reddit said this person was right.

I'll never understand this irrational distaste for YTers/Influencers/Streamers. No one is forcing players to watch said guides, if you want to blind run everything then form a static with that as the requirement.

Regardless of your personal feelings of influencers, they have a pretty big impact on the community and you not liking them for whatever inane reason isnt going to change that.

[Gula]

I'll never understand this irrational distaste for YTers/Influencers/Streamers. No one is forcing players to watch said guides, if you want to blind run everything then form a static with that as the requirement.

Regardless of your personal feelings of influencers, they have a pretty big impact on the community and you not liking them for whatever inane reason isnt going to change that.

See right here.

I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.

Mr. Happy did not make or design this game. His approval was not needed for anything, and yet people look at his videos as word of God and day 1 are practically slobbering for it. And thus, within the first week of a major patch, PF is filled with WATCH A GUIDE over mechanics that can be grasped roughly on the first run or 2.

The people who made the guides went in blind, it should not be expected of me to have watched one because I had a life to attend to and couldn't be there minute 0. If someone asks for help, offer help. This extends to queuing into something for the first time. I shouldn't have to hold the party up or leave because someone wants me to watch a 10 minute video I will not retain. Nor should I have to sit and wait for someone to give unsolicited advice a la these videos, parroting Mr. Happy and happier than a pig in mud.

Doing Kugane Ohashi day 1 before a guide was out was the most fun I'd had in awhile because everyone was blind, no one could explain anything before the fight started and after a few wipes we got it. I would hate to have done it that weekend where people wont start because "Let me explain this boss for 5 minutes despite no one asking."

[ForteNightshade]

No? Why are you manipulating my post that way? I specifically wrote about time spent in the game and that you could have fun with any amount of time, since that what the games are for, right? How would you came up with this, of me suggesting women cant play hard games? I have no idea.
I meant, women tend to be more busy in real life for obvious reasons, and they will choose more (FUN) rewarding game per hour spent over a game where you have to no life in order to get nice things. FFXIV you could play any time you want and you will still enjoy it, for example playing hard content which does not require a ton of time to burn on it.

Because you specifically linked the higher female demographic this game has towards its lack of difficulty. You're still doing it by making the broad assumption women inherently have busier lives than men. If we're going by pure accessibility, virtually every FPS game is pick up and play. In fact, one could argue games like Fortnight or Smash Bros are easier because they literally require zero investment to reach their respective end game. Furthermore, I wager plenty of men play FFXIV for the same reasons you described. Fun and rewarding is also entirely subjective. What you find fun, someone else—regardless of their gender—may not.

Point being. You brought gender into a discussion where it has no relevance.

[Selova]

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That's on the people doing that then, not him. The guides are there to help inform players, people treating them as gospel is their own fault. If this is that big of a thorn in players sides then dont watch the guides. Create a static that runs everything blind. Let's stop vilifying content creators because parts of the community misuse the guides.

[Nedkel]

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Ah i see what i wrote now, sory if u felt offended, i messed up my post construct, intention of the post was different.