Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Ahh okay. Then find a group of friends or a static that agrees with it. No harm done. Especially for people who put out raid guides for those who don't like going in blind.

Guides shouldn't be put out day one of content, especially for normal modes.

I already do extremes with friends thanks

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Guides shouldn't be put out day one of content, especially for normal modes.

I already do extremes with friends thanks

Why shouldn't they? People will watch them and use the information.

[GomJabbar]

Why shouldn't they? People will watch them and use the information.

She didn't say they shouldn't at all... Just not day one.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

She didn't say they shouldn't at all... Just not day one. I agree, because I actually like to experience the story and excitement as it was meant to be. If I have trouble, sure, I'll go back and watch a vid, but day one? Those are basically spoilers.

Is someone forcing you to watch them? Like does FFXIV post a link to the stream and force you to watch it before you can que?

[ForteNightshade]

She didn't say they shouldn't at all... Just not day one.

The same question still applies those. Why? You may prefer to go in blind, but not everyone does or cares. If you can't find a party for blind prog, then make one yourself. Guide makers are going to release content quickly because the whole intent is catering towards who want them.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The same question still applies those. Why? You may prefer to go in blind, but not everyone does or cares. If you can't find a party for blind prog, then make one yourself. Guide makers are going to release content quickly because the whole intent is catering towards who want them.

I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.

One of the current annoyances I deal with is the A B C callout for cerberus in WoD. You don't need a whole alliance for chains. All dps should get eaten to speed the fight up.


I personally don't watch guides because a guide only tells me what I can learn the first time I go in anyway. Sure, I reference guides when looking for adjustments for a group as a whole (who should be where and when) when we get stuck on a phase or mechanic. But for the most part, I learn the fight as I go. It's worked out so far.

[Gula]

I'll never understand this irrational distaste for YTers/Influencers/Streamers. No one is forcing players to watch said guides, if you want to blind run everything then form a static with that as the requirement.

Regardless of your personal feelings of influencers, they have a pretty big impact on the community and you not liking them for whatever inane reason isnt going to change that.

See right here.

I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.

Mr. Happy did not make or design this game. His approval was not needed for anything, and yet people look at his videos as word of God and day 1 are practically slobbering for it. And thus, within the first week of a major patch, PF is filled with WATCH A GUIDE over mechanics that can be grasped roughly on the first run or 2.

The people who made the guides went in blind, it should not be expected of me to have watched one because I had a life to attend to and couldn't be there minute 0. If someone asks for help, offer help. This extends to queuing into something for the first time. I shouldn't have to hold the party up or leave because someone wants me to watch a 10 minute video I will not retain. Nor should I have to sit and wait for someone to give unsolicited advice a la these videos, parroting Mr. Happy and happier than a pig in mud.

Doing Kugane Ohashi day 1 before a guide was out was the most fun I'd had in awhile because everyone was blind, no one could explain anything before the fight started and after a few wipes we got it. I would hate to have done it that weekend where people wont start because "Let me explain this boss for 5 minutes despite no one asking."

[linay]

Guides shouldn't be put out day one of content, especially for normal modes.

Who watches guides for normal mode? lol. At least, I don't remember anyone ever asking people to watch a guide on day 1 of dungeons, trials, or even raids in normal mode. That said, I have seen people teaching the mechanics either because they've done it or because they've watched a guide, but don't remember people asking others to watch a guide.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Who watches guides for normal mode? lol. At least, I don't remember anyone ever asking people to watch a guide on day 1 of dungeons, trials, or even raids in normal mode. That said, I have seen people teaching the mechanics either because they've done it or because they've watched a guide, but don't remember people asking others to watch a guide.

Why would they make the guides if people didn't watch them?

[linay]

Why would they make the guides if people didn't watch them?

If they do, they certainly shouldn't be enough to lessen people's enjoyment of going in blind.