Tanks and spam windows

[Izsha]

Yeah, it was mega subtle...

To be fair, according to this forum drk has been shit for years so nothing new in ShB. Nut you do have burst wh9ch is one thing drks really wanted. There were a lot of wishes granted. Improved mobility. Less da spam. Burst. Party utility. Etc. It isnt all bad. It just isnt perfect eithet. And there are plenty of wars that hate the ungabunga memecleave it has become. There is plenty of sympathy for spreading these silly 1 dimensional burst windows. And for some of the items se didnt fix like immunities and tbn being to risky to use in many cases and lots of other things.

SE did a lot right with this expansions for tanks. Tank stances, rebalanced mitigation, fixed accessories. Added much needed utility balance. They really did do a lot. They also dropped the ball on a handful of things, and had some mediocre additions like this one. It gets the job done of giving drk burst. Is it creative? Ingenious? No. But neither is IR. Were all in this same shit boat together, but the tank boat is overall is looking pretty good all things considered.

[Satarn]

To be fair, according to this forum drk has been shit for years so nothing new in ShB. Nut you do have burst wh9ch is one thing drks really wanted. There were a lot of wishes granted. Improved mobility. Less da spam. Burst.

Okay, now you're just misrepresenting the situation. Sure, there were people who asked for burst and DA removal, but there's also been plenty of people suggesting more ways to spend MP instead and a lot of people asking for return to more HW-like DRK, which SHB is basically the opposite of. Also what mobility you're talking about? Charges which nobody thought of and which just make delaying Plunge less of a dps loss than before? The Plunge feedback has always been about it's range and that's still unchanged.

SE did a lot right with this expansions for tanks. Tank stances, rebalanced mitigation (...) but the tank boat is overall is looking pretty good all things considered.

Subjective. Highly subjective.

[WhyAmIHere]

Subjective. Highly subjective.

DPS no longer have to get yelled at to use Diversion, as it's gone.
Tanks just toggle tank stance for hate and no longer do less damage for performing the functions of their job: generating enmity.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a tank main that things the change to tank stance is a bad one. PLD I bet likes having an oGCD tank stance finally.

[Jandor]

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a tank main that things the change to tank stance is a bad one.

Hello o/ .

[WhyAmIHere]

Hello o/ .

Im curious, what about the new tank stances dont you enjoy?

[Jandor]

Im curious, what about the new tank stances dont you enjoy?

I don't like the utter irrelevance of enmity now, it wasn't super important before but nevertheless I think it served a useful purpose as a simple introduction to coordinating across the party. Maximizing DPS required everyone do their bit to manage it.

I also liked the game-play possibilities that could come from switching abilities in and out depending on stance, but they only ever really did anything with that potential on Warrior.

[Jandor]

SE did a lot right with this expansions for tanks. Tank stances, rebalanced mitigation, fixed accessories. Added much needed utility balance. They really did do a lot.

I sort of wish they hadn't tbh.

theres a certain primal joy from being able to spam your big move especially when its at no resource cost. Its not MEANT to be intellectually stimulating - just fun.

There was already a job for people that find that fun.

Everyone keeps comparing the new Delirium to Inner Release, but I've heard nothing about how PLD's Requiescat is basically the same thing, unless we're continuing the meme that PLD is meant to be boring.

People have been comparing Inner Release and Requiescat for years.