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    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
    I'm kind of hoping they do that with Ishgard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
    I would /love/ a personal zone and I think once people tried a Wildstar like system many would like it more too (where you can customize more than you can with our current system, and there are less limitations because you don't share visual space) but..... there are people who would NOT like losing their neighborhood. I think therefore it would be important to keep the wards, but allow people to transfer their house into the instanced zone if they wish (relinquishing their lot in the ward). If enough people transfer over to collapse down the system into fewer wards then that can be done, but I'd like to see the housing system leave the salt era not trade types of salt XD.

    Unless by end you mean end adding wards or at least take a break from that and add/expand another system (add airships, personal zone, greatly expanded apartment system, something), in which case full agree with every ounce of desire I can muster. I am not impressed with the ward system, am impressed with the decoration items though (which is why I want to see a system that has more power to the player).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I would /love/ a personal zone and I think once people tried a Wildstar like system many would like it more too (where you can customize more than you can with our current system, and there are less limitations because you don't share visual space) but..... there are people who would NOT like losing their neighborhood. I think therefore it would be important to keep the wards, but allow people to transfer their house into the instanced zone if they wish (relinquishing their lot in the ward). If enough people transfer over to collapse down the system into fewer wards then that can be done, but I'd like to see the housing system leave the salt era not trade types of salt XD.

    Unless by end you mean end adding wards or at least take a break from that and add/expand another system (add airships, personal zone, greatly expanded apartment system, something), in which case full agree with every ounce of desire I can muster. I am not impressed with the ward system, am impressed with the decoration items though (which is why I want to see a system that has more power to the player).
    I'm not asking to end the wards, just make them ONLY available to FCs; which would solve a number of issues in the game. It won't solve all, and players will find a work around, but it would solve a few of the demand issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    I'm not asking to end the wards, just make them ONLY available to FCs; which would solve a number of issues in the game. It won't solve all, and players will find a work around, but it would solve a few of the demand issues.
    I think that would be a dangerous path, unless you meant something else . Like I said I sincerely believe majority people would be impressed if SE was able to make something like Wild Star (every player can have an instanced house + zone for personal use but can share and visit other people just like people do now), but... some people will certainly not be impressed being kicked off a system.

    I think you might be able to suggest that only FC can buy ward housing at the introduction of the instanced system (so people who have a house previously can maintain it if they so wish). Still.. I believe it would be better to just leave it as is (wards) and let players choose to migrate to an instanced area on their on volition, even allow FC to have their own zone. If the wards get smaller as I assume they will they can choose to do something with them as they get smaller, like collapsing them down or if truly abandoned then creating a Dark Cloud / WoW garrison system for NPC that a player or FC set up (could be cool if FC own an entire "instanced" ward, with the main area being customize-able guild hall and the rest being a sort of Dark Cloud / WoW garrison).

    Is that what you meant, like future forward they're only for FC (but current owners will be grandfathered)? I think that would lessen the salt but generally I still think the instanced system should be offered as an alternative for player and FC and the wards continue as they are (at least until the wards become unused, if that ever happens). The FC instance can be different than the player one, like I think a FC being able to purchase a ward (instanced for themselves) could lead to a lot of growth feeling.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-25-2019 at 03:51 AM.

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    Something definitely needs to be done. At the bare minimum the timers need to be displayed, even if given a vague description such as "Purchasable in ~12 hours". The current system encourages behavior that is physically unhealthy for players and probably the least fun thing you can do in a video game.

    Preferably, they need to address the overall problem which is the lack of housing. Housing Wards are typically dead, even on densely populated RP servers such as Balmung and I think it's safe to say that the concept is pretty much a total failure in terms of being a community hub.

    We need instanced housing for everyone. You can keep the wards and apartments for those that are interested, but allow everyone else who would be fine with instanced housing to have their bit of fun too. And don't give me that "the servers can't handle it!" nonsense. WoW could support giving everyone a garrison with a much larger sustained population at the time, SWG could manage to fill practically the entire game world with player cities and housing (and that was over 10 years ago!) and Elder Scrolls Online, being a free to play game, manages to give every single player a house with the potential for multiple houses. SE could make it happen if they actually gave a damn.
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    Housing

    Housing in this game is ludicrous! People have the gil to buy the housing but the put those stupid timers for people to purchase! There's been people standing at the same spot all day and some last night to get a plot that are still there! Is this healthy for them to do so for a digital house!? SE just implement a blind or silent auction for housing and place the silent auction on a 12 hour timer for others to get a chance to bid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    I'm not asking to end the wards, just make them ONLY available to FCs; which would solve a number of issues in the game.
    And bring new issues, such as encouraging players to have one-man fcs if they want to experience the joy of decorating their own house.

    It's not fair to let only fc masters have all the furnishing fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    And bring new issues, such as encouraging players to have one-man fcs if they want to experience the joy of decorating their own house.

    It's not fair to let only fc masters have all the furnishing fun.
    And you completely missed the caveat of people having access to personal, instanced housing with the limiting of wards to only FCs. But yes, like I said, people will still find a way to exploit the system under these circumstances too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    And you completely missed the caveat of people having access to personal, instanced housing with the limiting of wards to only FCs. But yes, like I said, people will still find a way to exploit the system under these circumstances too.
    Oh well in that case it's fine. I thought you meant only fc masters get a house, but it's not that. Cool.

    And yea sadly people will always find a way to exploit a system. If we had a proper instanced housing system such things wouldn't matter though, given the actions of one person couldn't affect someone else.
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