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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Housing Transfers Should Be On Timers

    Today I waited from about 3am to 12pm for a plot, only to get sniped by a person who already had a house.

    Not only did they do this, but they also made fun of me, and trolled for a few hours before doing it. They tried to make me afraid of their ability to do it.

    Square Enix, we need more wards. Wayyyy more wards, and we need to put housing transfers on a timer. No one should get an advantage over housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Not only did they do this, but they also made fun of me, and trolled for a few hours before doing it. They tried to make me afraid of their ability to do it.
    I would report them for harassment. While the system allows them to relocate and that was within the rules, the rest of what they did was sheer malevolence and it's one of the issues the GMs are actually allowed to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    I would report them for harassment. While the system allows them to relocate and that was within the rules, the rest of what they did was sheer malevolence and it's one of the issues the GMs are actually allowed to deal with.
    No they do not need more timers, but this person def needed to be reported for trolling and harassment. That is just cruddy.
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    I agree with Dusty, however I also agree they need more wards. Their system is woefully inadequate. And after having an apartment it is not the same as a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Today I waited from about 3am to 12pm for a plot, only to get sniped by a person who already had a house.

    Not only did they do this, but they also made fun of me, and trolled for a few hours before doing it. They tried to make me afraid of their ability to do it.

    Square Enix, we need more wards. Wayyyy more wards, and we need to put housing transfers on a timer. No one should get an advantage over housing.
    I'm having a hard time imagining that someone would troll you for a few hours, while plenty of other house-hungry Balmungers could easily swipe the house.

    I don't doubt that words might have been shared between both sides, but I'm struggling with that other bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I'm having a hard time imagining that someone would troll you for a few hours, while plenty of other house-hungry Balmungers could easily swipe the house.

    I don't doubt that words might have been shared between both sides, but I'm struggling with that other bit.
    Hours is hyperbole most likely, but i’ve Seen quite a few people trolling the folks at the placard then dropping a house. So it’s not out of the ball park.
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    It is really harsh for someone who has been camping for hours only to have the house swiped away by someone transferring to another plot.

    Once I came across some players who wanted a house for their FC. This house was a house I wanted to transfer to, but after talking with them and learning that they were waiting all night, I decided to not transfer. While transferring would've been in my right, it would've been pretty cruel to do knowing these people have been waiting. The people were very grateful, and I checked the plot the next day. Luckily enough, they were able to get the house. Even though I didn't get the house, it felt good.

    I believe the timer restriction should be the other way around.

    People transferring plots should have to wait out the timer, and first-time buyers should be allowed to bypass the timer. And I'm saying this as someone who owns a house.
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    Last edited by Hunky; 04-24-2019 at 12:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Housing Transfers Should Be On Timers instanced.
    Fixed. People keep complaining about timers when it is not gonna solve the problem of housing shortage, especially when tons of new players or returners will want a plot as well at Shadowbringers release.

    People transferring plots should have to wait out the timer, and first-time buyers should be allowed to bypass the timer. And I'm saying this as someone who owns a house.
    And then old players who waited more than one year for an house upgrade will complain of new players snatching better plots than them XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Fixed. People keep complaining about timers when it is not gonna solve the problem of housing shortage, especially when tons of new players or returners will want a plot as well at Shadowbringers release.

    And then old players who waited more than one year for an house upgrade will complain of new players snatching better plots than them XD
    Ideally, I don't think anyone should have to wait or camp to purchase a plot.

    But if we had to keep the system we have right now, then the question we have to ask ourselves is who should be given the advantage. Because someone will have an advantage over another; unless we decide to make everyone, transfers and first-time buyers, wait for the timer.

    Currently, the ones who have an advantage are the ones who already own a house. They don't have to worry about the timer because they can bypass it. You can have a group of 7 to 9 people would-be first-time buyers camping at a plot, only to have someone swoop down and transfer to the house just like that, making those hours of waiting and camping meaningless and a waste of time.

    We have to ask ourselves what would be most fair. Should people who already have a house be given this advantage? Or should it be people who don't own a house at all? Who should be made to camp and wait for a timer to be done?

    I personally wouldn't mind first-time buyers being allowed to bypass the timer. Give them a chance to buy a house. Then, when they want to transfer, they can camp and wait with the rest of the house-owners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    I don't see why there shouldn't be a preference for relocation as it leaves a plot open. At this point it seems pretty clear SE intends to just add more houses rather than go instanced and if they're going to do that then but a random small somewhere, save up your gil and upgrade when you can like the rest of us.

    The trolling/bullying/whatever is clearly uncalled for but it doesn't change the argument fundamentally.
    Yes, house-owners do open up a spot when they transfer, but the timer resets. People who have been waiting for hours now have to go to another plot, hoping that the timer ends soon. It's incredibly frustrating and grueling.

    I'm only thinking about what would be most fair considering the current system we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunky View Post
    We have to ask ourselves what would be most fair.
    If a timer has to be in place, everyone (new or current home owners) that wanted a particular plot should have to wait out the timer. It shouldn't matter if someone lucked out and acquired a plot already, especially when certain size/locations are so rare.
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