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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    if anyone on team genderlock wants to make a super un-biased impartial mega poll ill gladly respond to that. but for now this is the best guestimate we have
    I don't think they care enough to do such thing and no, it's not the best we have, it's the only one we have. Which can be disregarded because of how biased it is.
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    Flan Vongola
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    So much salt in here.

    Btw people voting for genderlocks makes them a minority as well. A minority of a minority, I suppose.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    if anyone on team genderlock wants to make a super un-biased impartial mega poll ill gladly respond to that. but for now this is the best guestimate we have
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Maybe not the majority, but a large enough number to be significant at least.
    to me, this seems like a 'false dilemma fallacy'. When we're thinking its an "either/or" simply because there is no other option. but in reality, the only option is deceptive [this poll] and a better, less biased option should be pursued [doesn't exist at this time].


    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    More options is good for everyone. The only people who vocally support a genderlock are doing so out of pettiness, because they know people want something they don't care about and want to trash it. :v
    I don't care about the genderlock but I'm probably borderline supporting it because I have no interest in male viera or hrothgars in their entirety. It's not out of petty, it's just not an interest of mine. I care more about memorable, engaging combat encounters, job balancing, and diverse equipment models.
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    Last edited by Nora_of_Mira; 04-01-2019 at 10:10 PM.

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    It doesn't bother me at all. I don't really see much wrong with genderlocking (at least in this case) in principle either.
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  5. #35
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Just stop to create new threads. There are enough! And stop pretending to talk for the majority. The majority don't care that much about genderlock. Don't take your obsession for universal. Talking of a noisy minority would be fairly more exact.

    The following message resume everything :
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    There are two huge thread (the 'show your support' ones) still active at the moment asking for male viera and female hrothgar. I believe that those are enough to prove to SE that people still want them
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 04-01-2019 at 10:24 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelent View Post
    Majority of player-base? Don't you mean the "vocal minority".

    Your putting words in the mouths of other players. What YOU want is NOT what want. Not even close.

    The only thing that needs to be "locked" is these gender locking threads.
    The FF14 team has a vision and a budget. Deal with this restriction and move on. I'd rather they spend the resources on getting the game-play, encounters, and content right.
    This. Right here. Absolutely. I remember some threads being purged shortly after fanfest and mods should keep at it.

    SE is not trying to silence people, forum mods are trying to get them to behave on a less toxic level.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post



    I don't care about the genderlock but I'm probably borderline supporting it because I have no interest in male viera or hrothgars in their entirety. It's not out of petty, it's just not an interest of mine. I care more about memorable, engaging combat encounters, job balancing, and diverse equipment models.
    Sounds like pettiness to me. You want to disregard what other people are requesting just because it doesn't personally interest you. You're putting your personal wants above theirs.
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  8. #38
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    "majority" ? I don't want ... keep going SE ignore the blame form few who scream loud to get heard.
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  9. #39
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    Threads like these do more to push people away from supporting the OP and moving opinions toward hoping they don't cater to their unreasonable spam and push for this even after the team said they are evaluating feedback and will give a response. The one thing for sure is those pushing for this are NOT A MAJORITY.

    The question of how to spend the resources is a genuine one and lets not kid ourselves creating two addition genders isn't an inexpensive proposition. The Director and the team will hopefully clarify what will happen soon so we can move on and put this issue to rest.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Sounds like pettiness to me. You want to disregard what other people are requesting just because it doesn't personally interest you. You're putting your personal wants above theirs.
    let me start a thread on my interests and start calling anyone who disagrees with me "petty" because my thread doesn't personally interest them.

    wanting the genderlock removed is putting your personal wants above mine.

    we are all FFxiv's players.
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